(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[600]OT[5x30 byo-yomi] PW[unknownplr]PB[ericdai]WR[9d]BR[9d]DT[2008-03-13]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]RE[B+Resign] ;B[pd]BL[593.154]C[GaIaxy [2d\]: miam ericdai [9d\]: hi Empereur [1d\]: Yes !! flashback [8d\]: finally TotoroShan [2d\]: mouahaha Myrith [1k\]: :) Kirasaki [9k\]: lol pasky [-\]: waa kendo [3d\]: this should be interesting murai [1k\]: beautiful futur game unknownplr [9d\]: hi Empereur [1d\]: Dai Junfu vs Bao Yun !!! ] ;W[dp]WL[583.154] ;B[qp]BL[589.978] ;W[dc]WL[579.732] ;B[nq]BL[586.376]C[Myrith [1k\]: ah mé c le vrai dai en + Myrith [1k\]: :p Tearmaker [1d\]: who is stronger ? ] ;W[nc]WL[575.102]C[Myrith [1k\]: jpensais que c t une blague^^ ] ;B[pf]BL[580.999]C[tildebis [4d?\]: ohoh ] ;W[kd]WL[572.463]C[flashback [8d\]: these two will propably meet each other on Paris deft [4d\]: both are extremely strong ] ;B[de]BL[574.349] ;W[fd]WL[567.673] ;B[pj]BL[568.228]C[Violence [?\]: F16? kendo [3d\]: whats gonna happen in paris? murai [1k\]: the paris tournament Violence [?\]: then... tenuki? flashback [8d\]: pandanet Final dal [-\]: Paris Open will happen :) accountB [7k\]: i've never seen 4 9ds in the same room Myrith [1k\]: je le connaissais pas blanc^^ tildebis [4d?\]: I think unknownplr is stronger but of course he might loose sometimes ] ;W[di]WL[533.482]C[paintcan [2d\]: no game this good in at least a week pytta [1d?\]: hi tildebis :D lemuria [1d\]: eric is also scary tildebis [4d?\]: hi :) pytta [1d?\]: everything going ok? tildebis [4d?\]: sure :) ] ;B[ck]BL[546.914]C[pytta [1d?\]: good EmTom [1k\]: they are not scary... they are.... ummm heroes :P Chardonnay [1k\]: Four 9d here now lemuria [1d\]: their skills are terryfying flashback [8d\]: eric is the strongest player from europe I think flashback [8d\]: 3-0 with Fan Hui pytta [1d?\]: W = Yi Chang-ho murai [1k\]: and fan ? ] ;W[cm]WL[481.788] ;B[ci]BL[541.196]C[Myrith [1k\]: faaan :D lemuria [1d\]: had he played against Cho Seok-bin ? murai [1k\]: yes maybe but fan is very strong too ImNoSensei [-\]: pytta : ? Arwenia [3k\]: il es francais Dai ? Myrith [1k\]: ui tildebis [4d?\]: yes lemuria : 1-1 pytta [1d?\]: Joking of course :p Tearmaker [1d\]: ericdai stronger than bin ? flashback [8d\]: B just beat Fan Hui 3 times ] ;W[ch]WL[455.932] ;B[dh]BL[538.227]C[Empereur [1d\]: he beat ang li too Kirasaki [9k\]: mdr nan il est pas français dai ] ;W[cg]WL[445.389]C[ImNoSensei [-\]: and Li Ang recently yes tildebis [4d?\]: he's chinese Myrith [1k\]: >< Myrith [1k\]: dai junfu il joue en france ImNoSensei [-\]: he's never played Seok-bin in a real life tournament ? maufred [-\]: don't forget to visit http://www.goigo.org ] ;B[ei]BL[489.081]C[accountB [7k\]: so in this shape does balck usually save the d12-d15 stones and sacrifice the ones on the bottom? deft [4d\]: pretty normal fuseki -- looks like both don't want to lose tildebis [4d?\]: they will play at Paris OPen ] ;W[dj]WL[434.175] ;B[cj]BL[488.295]C[Violence [?\]: White is currently playing with a blindfold on, using a helper to play the moves ] ;W[ej]WL[426.562] ;B[eh]BL[485.801]C[flashback [8d\]: d8? tildebis [4d?\]: yes I'm telling him B move :) ] ;W[df]WL[411.399]C[Myrith [1k\]: whats a blindfold^^ ] ;B[dm]BL[468.166]C[Myrith [1k\]: conversation? SuperBuddy [1k\]: who is laris that beat eric dai? koleraba [3d\]: black is kinda weak tildebis [4d?\]: Dai's friend accountB [7k\]: blindfold = cloth across eyes so you can not see SuperBuddy [1k\]: oh tildebis [4d?\]: (laris) ] ;W[cn]WL[390.762]C[SuperBuddy [1k\]: ty tilde ] ;B[fj]BL[463.116] ;W[ek]WL[387.842]C[Myrith [1k\]: lol ] ;B[dl]BL[461.133]C[pasky [-\]: yes unknownplr is famous for blind go :) Myrith [1k\]: playing with a blindfold :p ] ;W[fk]WL[376.587]C[pasky [-\]: very good at it ] ;B[fm]BL[452.148] ;W[gj]WL[374.412] ;B[gh]BL[451.147]C[Hall1 [4k\]: seem like b giving ownself trouble ] ;W[ii]WL[360.725]C[LugPaj [2d\]: seems already like w will win tildebis [4d?\]: not yet flashback [8d\]: http://www.europeangodatabase.eu/Player_Card.php tildebis [4d?\]: Bao like to kill :) ] ;B[ih]BL[422.265]C[lemuria [1d\]: d15 stone has a lot of power flashback [8d\]: b lost only 4 games so far IoI ] ;W[jh]WL[353.558] ;B[ig]BL[421.097]C[Myrith [1k\]: go dai^ pytta [1d?\]: deft, vakkert parti ja? mentat [2k\]: 19x19 blind go sounds a huge feat okoska: why is it good for black? ] ;W[hm]WL[303.592]C[tildebis [4d?\]: Dai plays faster ... Myrith [1k\]: coz seems to be weak so white doesnt care :D flashback [8d\]: only Miakawa Wataru stayed a chance :) Empereur [1d\]: even in tournament dai is playing very quickly ] ;B[fp]BL[383.479]C[pasky [-\]: dai likes to play fast tildebis [4d?\]: yes BigPhenix [3d\]: white already played agst black, he knows how strong he is Empereur [1d\]: this is a kgs game, not as serious as a tournament game :) ] ;W[en]WL[266.409]C[Neverhood [4k\]: Hey, what's this "blindfold" about? is that true or what? flashback [8d\]: I think Bao Yun is about same level Harehare [-\]: neverhood: sure lemuria [1d\]: this game is so intense from the very beginning ] ;B[dn]BL[355.413] ;W[do]WL[263.946] ;B[fn]BL[354.669]C[paintcan [2d\]: hey flashback, use same name on DashN? ] ;W[fo]WL[257.531] ;B[go]BL[352.868] ;W[eo]WL[255.732] ;B[fl]BL[352.154]C[Neverhood [4k\]: He's playing blindfold NOW? That's lame... Harehare [-\]: no not now lol ] ;W[jg]WL[234.294]C[Nick8a [1k\]: lol Mulugruntz [8k\]: what's blindfold ? flashback [8d\]: what is DashN ? ] ;B[fe]BL[338.976]C[tildebis [4d?\]: close your eyes and play paintcan [2d\]: a different go server CestBon [7k\]: blindfold = close his eyes and memorize where all the stones are, you need amazing memory to do that kendo [3d\]: u need to be chuck noris to play that on the comp hjkl [2d\]: yes bao yun is among the best in blindfold play flashback [8d\]: dont know paintcan [2d\]: i saw a 7d named flashback there paintcan [2d\]: i guess someone else then ] ;W[ce]WL[214.575]C[flashback [8d\]: not me Slug [3k\]: four 9dan's are here ] ;B[gd]BL[336.608] ;W[fc]WL[209.993]C[Uberdude [4d?\]: good time to log on ] ;B[ee]BL[328.63]C[tildebis [4d?\]: I think he is the best in blindfold game ] ;W[dd]WL[200.379]C[Uberdude [4d?\]: maybe unknown finally found someone who is a challenge lemuria [1d\]: cmon 9d's dont be shy, tell us something about what is going on the goban ^^ tildebis [4d?\]: but paybe Dai stronger in blitz :) ] ;B[if]BL[317.428]C[evave [6k\]: i kinda like w ?? lemuria [1d\]: please ^^ niouth: what is fan color ? fandemuse [5k\]: who is unknwn player plz ? Neverhood [4k\]: ..-....-.-..--...-.-.--..--...-.-... stp [3k\]: bao yun KenLP [8k\]: white is unknown player ] ;W[jf]WL[171.468]C[GaIaxy [2d\]: how can i do to put the best ranked at the top ? PlumeMoi [1k\]: can unx user use dashn ? paintcan [2d\]: looks like w crushes him Xorax [3d\]: right click someoen in list Harehare [-\]: right click list + sort by rank tildebis [4d?\]: not yet Arwenia [3k\]: bao yun est amateur aussi ? ] ;B[hj]BL[292.051]C[paintcan [2d\]: sorry plume, windows user can barely use dashn Empereur [1d\]: white is the best player in the world in blind go :) PlumeMoi [1k\]: woth wine no ? GaIaxy [2d\]: thanks guys vent [-\]: oui PlumeMoi [1k\]: with* Uberdude [4d?\]: so some claim... GaIaxy [2d\]: hmm there's oysy Chardonnay [1k\]: Bao Yun only one person on Earth who can play Go blindfolded GaIaxy [2d\]: i like him Slug [3k\]: 9 dans give us a hint :) pytta [1d?\]: Uberdude, I saw him play 3 simulaneous blindfold with correct handicap accountB [7k\]: i do not like black group on the left ericdai [9d\]: it is a 18 + game:) tildebis [4d?\]: he played 10 9x9 games :) ] ;W[hk]WL[129.773]C[tildebis [4d?\]: simul ericdai [9d\]: not suggested for 18- koleraba [3d\]: h6 pasky [-\]: flashback: is w as much better as it seems? :) koleraba [3d\]: is need ] ;B[ij]BL[284.154]C[tildebis [4d?\]: and blind fold ] ;W[hi]WL[117.534] ;B[gi]BL[281.057] ;W[gk]WL[115.553] ;B[ji]BL[277.542] ;W[gn]WL[114.283]C[vent [-\]: oups Chardonnay [1k\]: b misread? ] ;B[ho]BL[263.1]C[Empereur [1d\]: ouch Uberdude [4d?\]: and? paintcan [2d\]: pretty obvious target kendo [3d\]: b really missed that? oO paintcan [2d\]: black must not care koleraba [3d\]: sacrifice? Uberdude [4d?\]: why do you assume no one else can Harehare [-\]: that was intended pasky [-\]: isn't it just trade? ericdai [9d\]: nooo BigPhenix [3d\]: how could a 9d miss a cut pasky [-\]: o.O koleraba [3d\]: maybe it's intentional :p LugPaj [2d\]: b sacrified to get out of trouble LugPaj [2d\]: i think vent [-\]: lol ] ;W[jl]WL[89.341]C[tildebis [4d?\]: haha pasky [-\]: I thought so too PlumeMoi [1k\]: b got a plan, i trust him! ] ;B[jn]BL[256.611]C[pasky [-\]: until the "nooo" KenLP [8k\]: b said nooo tildebis [4d?\]: ;) Uberdude [4d?\]: some blin people play go vent [-\]: ericdai [9d\]: nooo lol ] ;W[ki]WL[81.31] ;B[hh]BL[249.551]C[Slug [3k\]: haha blackman [2k\]: he will use that to build moyo ] ;W[kk]WL[54.161]C[PlumeMoi [1k\]: how old is he? ] ;B[hl]BL[243.711]C[ericdai [9d\]: for the -18 bigben79 [7d\]: .................... Nick8a [1k\]: lookspossiblr but grim moetero [1k\]: 1000 years oysy [9d\]: w misread ericdai [9d\]: welcome to our forum ericdai [9d\]: www.goigo.org ericdai [9d\]: :) LugPaj [2d\]: lol unknownplr [9d\]: zeze vent [-\]: lol mentat [2k\]: lol Midorya [2d\]: omg 9d spammer ericdai [9d\]: haha ericdai [9d\]: sorry tildebis [4d?\]: :) Mulugruntz [8k\]: lol unknownplr [9d\]: hehe vent [-\]: meme quand il joue il se fait de la pub il est pas sortable PlumeMoi [1k\]: zeze? moetero [1k\]: he's the one playing :D koleraba [3d\]: lol hikaru235: white is thinking "i'll fix your forum" evave [6k\]: b alive :) acropora [2k\]: heh, this is hilarious :) deft [4d\]: this is a bit cheeky :) koleraba [3d\]: can't belive white missed that accountB [7k\]: i missed it kendo [3d\]: j7 deft [4d\]: I can believe that.. PlumeMoi [1k\]: w and b misread, is that a 9d game? ] ;W[gl]WL[30]OW[5]C[moetero [1k\]: he's too busy spamming his own game vent [-\]: of course ] ;B[gm]BL[240.846]C[Pinguschaf [-\]: i think even if he did there was not much choice Khouphrane [4d\]: zeze is a private joke in chinese mentat [2k\]: at least it is sente BigPhenix [3d\]: b is out Nick8a [1k\]: nice BigPhenix [3d\]: nice ] ;W[jj]WL[30]OW[5]C[pytta [1d?\]: deft, guest14 = Pål Slug [3k\]: he is excited to live ^^ cute ] ;B[ii]BL[221.876]C[koleraba [3d\]: b+miss ] ;W[im]WL[30]OW[5]C[Chardonnay [1k\]: H8 nice tesuji ] ;B[hn]BL[219.147]C[tildebis [4d?\]: now W wins :) koleraba [3d\]: lol? PlumeMoi [1k\]: ye tildebis [4d?\]: B bigben79 [7d\]: J7? lemuria [1d\]: j7 looks bad paintcan [2d\]: it doesnt not seem possible that w could miss h8 kendo [3d\]: hard for w from now sophtpaw [5k\]: who is more stonger? ] ;W[mp]WL[30]OW[5] ;B[np]BL[216.201]C[lemuria [1d\]: leaves unnecesary bad aji artem92 [6d\]: w plays strange... Midorya [2d\]: i r more stronger lurrch1313 [2k\]: unknownplr is rated slightly higher on kgs bai [2k?\]: black used spam suji :p lemuria [1d\]: maybe he still plays blindfolded ? Chardonnay [1k\]: unknownplr stronger Mikiso [1k\]: lol ] ;W[mo]WL[30]OW[5] ;B[ik]BL[213.175] ;W[il]WL[30]OW[5]C[okoska: b plays efective svgo [3k\]: unknownplr benches 225 ] ;B[ln]BL[200.174]C[sophtpaw [5k\]: lol ] ;W[kp]WL[30]OW[5]C[SuperBuddy [1k\]: all dans bench over 200lbs accountB [7k\]: does h11 count as 4 empty triangles? sophtpaw [5k\]: W squats 400 tildebis [4d?\]: L4 nice :) mentat [2k\]: lbs = liberties? ] ;B[jp]BL[178.324]C[Dunedain [6k\]: most dans are scrawny Slug [3k\]: I heard unknownplr once bit a dogs head off PlumeMoi [1k\]: lol account... ] ;W[ko]WL[30]OW[5] ;B[kn]BL[177.258]C[Slug [3k\]: it was a chiwawa.. ] ;W[jo]WL[30]OW[5] ;B[in]BL[176.047]C[Bashania [4d\]: good job then KenLP [8k\]: w felt a lot behind Chardonnay [1k\]: very lame joke, Slug mentat [2k\]: he must be an ozzy osbourne fan then Slug [3k\]: haha ] ;W[ip]WL[30]OW[5]C[Mikiso [1k\]: b waits for his moment to beat w hard Nick8a [1k\]: k9 SoulTaker [3k\]: go we SoulTaker [3k\]: w* ] ;B[nm]BL[157.933]C[fredley [2k\]: Is white player Baotun? Chardonnay [1k\]: Bao Yun flashback [8d\]: m8 Midorya [2d\]: m8 ] ;W[no]WL[30]OW[5]C[fredley [2k\]: yes. Chardonnay [1k\]: some respect to this guy who can play go blindfolded lurrch1313 [2k\]: ok, someone's going to have to explain the chiwawa joke. I searched sensei's and found nothing ] ;B[jk]BL[150.795]C[MATb [3d\]: 4 is a stubborn move ] ;W[ll]WL[30]OW[5] ;B[kj]BL[149.806]C[Mikiso [1k\]: yea everybody waiting for m8 ] ;W[lj]WL[30]OW[5] ;B[kh]BL[149.052]C[Slug [3k\]: its just a rumor lemuria [1d\]: b strong ^^ Nick8a [1k\]: here we go ] ;W[li]WL[30]OW[5] ;B[mk]BL[146.312]C[Slug [3k\]: but it may be true accountB [7k\]: chihuahua is a small dog Neverhood [4k\]: Hmmph.... m11 is a very interesting move ] ;W[lk]WL[30]OW[5] ;B[je]BL[145.191]C[tildebis [4d?\]: B won ] ;W[mm]WL[30]OW[5]C[SoulTaker [3k\]: its time for w to cut ] ;B[mn]BL[142.597]C[SoulTaker [3k\]: hehe ] ;W[nn]WL[30]OW[5]C[kendo [3d\]: heh ] ;B[hr]BL[136.844]C[gnoof2: h4 sycomore [1k\]: wow didn't expect h2 >< mentat [2k\]: impossible for W now Myrith [1k\]: haha tildebis [4d?\]: Bao is playing for fun, trying to kill big :) ] ;W[ir]WL[30]OW[5] ;B[hq]BL[133.026]C[koleraba [3d\]: who's boa? ] ;W[fq]WL[30]OW[5]C[tildebis [4d?\]: haha ] ;B[fr]BL[128.497]C[zaphodb [1d\]: boa constructor ] ;W[eq]WL[30]OW[5]C[Midorya [2d\]: white moves all in ] ;B[gq]BL[126.903]C[svgo [3k\]: bao the constrictor fandemuse [5k\]: what are the real rank of the players ? NeoNemesis [-\]: a korean singer ] ;W[er]WL[30]OW[5]C[Chardonnay [1k\]: Bao Yun 6 dan ] ;B[iq]BL[119.373]C[flashback [8d\]: 7 ImNoSensei [-\]: Dai is very strong 6d in France SoulTaker [3k\]: K2? flashback [8d\]: 7 DocWario [3k\]: ouch ImNoSensei [-\]: he sort of deserves to be 7d though flashback [8d\]: 7dan ;) koleraba [3d\]: lol Chardonnay [1k\]: who is 7 dan? flashback [8d\]: both falfan1 [4k\]: im 4k pro player tildebis [4d?\]: no Bao 6d in china flashback [8d\]: Bao may be 6d in china but 7d for europe Nick8a [1k\]: lol falfan1 [4k\]: its live ? fredley [2k\]: lol moetero [1k\]: b lives koleraba [3d\]: flashback, you're pretty good for european 4d :p Graouleu [6k\]: bao constrictor vs anaconDai ] ;W[pq]WL[30]OW[4]C[Neverhood [4k\]: is dan reads as "dun" in english? flashback [8d\]: amost 5d :) pasky [-\]: does china actually have 7d ama? ] ;B[pp]BL[117.316]C[accountB [7k\]: will white have to invade twice on the right to win? koleraba [3d\]: all our 4d are max 4d on kgs Uberdude [4d?\]: yes pasky ] ;W[qq]WL[30]OW[4]C[flashback [8d\]: need 20 rating points Uberdude [4d?\]: those who win national tournament svgo [3k\]: pretty good, grao pasky [-\]: interesting Uberdude [4d?\]: and international is 8d ] ;B[oq]BL[103.105]C[mentat [2k\]: poor dead W paintcan [2d\]: international ama winner? lemuria [1d\]: ko time ? pasky [-\]: wow... those must be godlike Uberdude [4d?\]: yes Prinny [1k\]: it is read as "don" neverhood flashback [8d\]: w a bit desperate ] ;W[om]WL[30]OW[4] ;B[nl]BL[101.383]C[paintcan [2d\]: i guess that just means paintcan [2d\]: the ing goe cup flashback [8d\]: after g6 miss Uberdude [4d?\]: no, the world ama moetero [1k\]: w is losing badley lemuria [1d\]: haha ... 'a bit' and 'desperate' dont sound well together ] ;W[oo]WL[30]OW[4]C[tildebis [4d?\]: yes W loosing big SoulTaker [3k\]: ba. SoulTaker [3k\]: its sad.. gnoof2: tenuki ? SoulTaker [3k\]: to see w losing.. Khouphrane [4d\]: s4 tildebis [4d?\]: no SoulTaker [3k\]: go w. show all that you can wins tildebis [4d?\]: he's training for fight here :) Pinguschaf [-\]: but p5 is nice ] ;B[nj]BL[62.461]C[gnoof2: tenuki :) Pinguschaf [-\]: although w is still bad ^^ flashback [8d\]: all out move .. wow pinkfloyd [3k\]: wanna see 9ds rengo Violence [?\]: Haha Uberdude [4d?\]: m13 ? ] ;W[lg]WL[30]OW[4]C[kefo [9k\]: if they are only 6d in china, scary... Joli [?\]: white is about 100 Points ahead ] ;B[rq]BL[58.14]C[ImNoSensei [-\]: ? Uberdude [4d?\]: 6d is top ama in china Prinny [1k\]: 6d is top ama rank in china kefo [9k\]: oh Prinny [1k\]: wow Uberdude [4d?\]: except the specials Mulugruntz [8k\]: no Joli flashback [8d\]: only 6d in china IoI Scoubidoo [2d\]: there are 7d ] ;W[pl]WL[30]OW[4]C[Prinny [1k\]: almost word for word ] ;B[ol]BL[55.267]C[Intake [2d\]: only if u win world ama tourny Intake [2d\]: 7d Mulugruntz [8k\]: don't rely on the score estimator ] ;W[pk]WL[30]OW[4] ;B[oj]BL[52.57]C[MATb [3d\]: I do not see w loosing Uberdude [4d?\]: 6d is top ama in china, except 7d for national champ, and 8d for international champ Scoubidoo [2d\]: dai sensei was 9d ama in china oO lurrch1313 [2k\]: congrats mulugruntz, you've taken your first step into a larger world Scoubidoo [2d\]: dai's sensei ] ;W[qn]WL[30]OW[4] ;B[ke]BL[48.285]C[Mulugruntz [8k\]: ??? paintcan [2d\]: nonsense, i use SE and i love it oysy [9d\]: Liu Jun sensei was 7d ama paintcan [2d\]: trust in SE Scoubidoo [2d\]: oh Graouleu [6k\]: chuck norris is china 10d ] ;W[le]WL[30]OW[4]C[blackrain [7k\]: ▒ mentat [2k\]: Score Randomizer rlz ] ;B[lf]BL[44.303]C[Scoubidoo [2d\]: goigo forum is misleading -_- adhitthana [6k?\]: wow so many 9d in this room topdiva [7d\]: Liu Jun was a fake amateur jjuiyh: 5 9D here ] ;W[mf]WL[30]OW[4] ;B[kf]BL[43.129]C[jjuiyh: so rare pinkfloyd [3k\]: fake amateur? topdiva [7d\]: yes Dunedain [6k\]: fake amateur? lol blackrain [7k\]: posing HamatoYosh [-\]: they all want to learn from w topdiva [7d\]: he was a pro... paintcan [2d\]: couldnt black play L13? pinkfloyd [3k\]: hmmmm Chardonnay [1k\]: Liu Jun is 3p or 4d pro paintcan [2d\]: i guess this is better accountB [7k\]: this bad for w oysy [9d\]: was* topdiva [7d\]: then said oh i do not want to be pro any more.. Dunedain [6k\]: so fake amateur, makes him a pro? hattrick [11k\]: I was about to ask, why no B L13? flashback [8d\]: haha SoulTaker [3k\]: w -k3 b K2 W L2 B K1 W H4 b g4 w c8 b d9 w f1 b g1 big ko and danger for b.. oysy [9d\]: hehe, how do you know that? SoulTaker [3k\]: someone can take a loot on what i say? Arwenia [3k\]: dead ? Chardonnay [1k\]: he play as amatuer cos of health reason paintcan [2d\]: w cant connect this was hattrick SoulTaker [3k\]: oysy? topdiva [7d\]: chinese official told me BigPhenix [3d\]: he wants the cut, not only 3 stones paintcan [2d\]: this way** ] ;W[ng]WL[30]OW[3]C[oysy [9d\]: he had really bad heart disease smogogo [6k\]: m12 for black cut oysy [9d\]: how could he be pro anymore murai [1k\]: N12 ? ] ;B[mh]BL[31.713]C[flashback [8d\]: new game pls cerebra [3k\]: is bad for the heart to be pro? flashback [8d\]: over ] ;W[lh]WL[30]OW[3]C[fredley [2k\]: sadly liu died too young. Graouleu [6k\]: lose your hand, save your arm Chardonnay [1k\]: bad for brain maybe :P ] ;B[mg]BL[22.391]C[oysy [9d\]: and he died becuase of heart disease topdiva [7d\]: yes myongstu [4d\]: it is hard to be a pro if ur heart is bad^^ Violence [?\]: oh really? Chardonnay [1k\]: poor w Chardonnay [1k\]: super thin in this game blackrain [7k\]: ouch moetero [1k\]: white will be pwoned lurrch1313 [2k\]: save your ribs, lose your head ] ;W[ni]WL[30]OW[3] ;B[nf]BL[21.351]C[PlumeMoi [1k\]: black stronger that tartrate! oysy [9d\]: at least you should respect him, not just gossip here svgo [3k\]: being a pro takes some physical stamina mentat [2k\]: didnt go seigen stoped to play go because of health reasons? Midorya [2d\]: white is already pwnd Pinguschaf [-\]: no age Scoubidoo [2d\]: he had an traffic accident ImNoSensei [-\]: Go Seigen never stopped tildebis [4d?\]: black stronger in blitz game Slug [3k\]: no plume mentat [2k\]: stoped playing professionaly tildebis [4d?\]: not in tournament game for sure svgo [3k\]: travel, eating rubber chicken, sitting around for hours hjkl [2d\]: b completely dominating blackrain [7k\]: when you age youlose easy board positions topdiva [7d\]: any thing i said that was disrespectful? ImNoSensei [-\]: he did stop competing liusasori [3k\]: go!!!!!!!!!! topdiva [7d\]: or untruthful? king8egg [5d\]: i'm pretty sure spandc can beat eric dai Violence [?\]: Yes, that's what they're playing, liu. ] ;W[me]WL[30]OW[2]C[KenLP [8k\]: now se is correct ] ;B[nh]BL[17.412] ;W[oh]WL[30]OW[2]C[Khouphrane [4d\]: seems not ok for B ] ;B[og]BL[14.4]C[Uberdude [4d?\]: nie weiping had health probs ] ;W[mi]WL[30]OW[2]C[MATb [3d\]: it is not over ] ;B[ng]BL[13.511]C[sophtpaw [5k\]: how healthy does one have to be to sit on one's ass and throw stones on the board? Chardonnay [1k\]: w look dead Pinguschaf [-\]: not so easy for me ] ;W[ph]WL[30]OW[2]C[paintcan [2d\]: did weiping die? Prinny [1k\]: no tildebis [4d?\]: no Pinguschaf [-\]: b overplayed imo, must have been easier PlumeMoi [1k\]: b ll die svgo [3k\]: i can't tell who's deader paintcan [2d\]: 'had' tildebis [4d?\]: W overplays Midorya [2d\]: professional go is not about sitting and throwing stones flashback [8d\]: r11 Swilice [1k\]: w00t game of the year o_O murai [1k\]: R11 ? Khouphrane [4d\]: as B wanted too much Prinny [1k\]: he played a game on Oro recently where he beat a 4p at 5 stones... ImNoSensei [-\]: o.0 Midorya [2d\]: as w? Prinny [1k\]: it sure didnt make any sense sophtpaw [5k\]: Midorya, they dash for 100m? ] ;B[qi]BL[30]OB[5]C[PlumeMoi [1k\]: cute cut paintcan [2d\]: was the 4p japanese? YusufS [4k\]: its a matter of having the ability to maintain an intense mental state for ah hour or more sophtpaw Prinny [1k\]: chinese paintcan [2d\]: collusion, prinny! ] ;W[qh]WL[30]OW[2] ;B[rh]BL[30]OB[5]C[blackrain [7k\]: ≥0-o≤ kefo [9k\]: thinking hard is work, even if you just sit Prinny [1k\]: it must have been Prinny [1k\]: haha paintcan [2d\]: also drugs ] ;W[rg]WL[30]OW[2] ;B[ri]BL[30]OB[5]C[FrozenLuck [1k\]: he gave or got 5 h? Prinny [1k\]: i cant imagine they were b was in the right state of mind Prinny [1k\]: gave 5 h tildebis [4d?\]: Bao won against Nie Weiping, 3 or 4 weeks ago ] ;W[qf]WL[30]OW[2]C[Prinny [1k\]: to a 4p ] ;B[oi]BL[30]OB[5]C[FrozenLuck [1k\]: ... Fiche [2d\]: lol YusufS [4k\]: unlike most amateurs pros acutally read in their games Fiche [2d\]: impossible Violence [?\]: r16? Chuky [2d\]: 5 handi is not believable pinkfloyd [3k\]: w gave 5handi to a pro? pinkfloyd [3k\]: no way PlumeMoi [1k\]: r15 Khouphrane [4d\]: is the outcome predictable ? Mikiso [1k\]: very complicated... ] ;W[qe]WL[30]OW[1]C[Prinny [1k\]: to be fair, dosaku beat a 5p with 4 stones king8egg [5d\]: pros don't really read in their games ] ;B[pe]BL[30]OB[5]C[king8egg [5d\]: spandc reads in all his games ImNoSensei [-\]: I remember that Yamashita Keigo was giving two or three stones to some people on Tom go1d [4d\]: what is the bao's level ? lurrch1313 [2k\]: i predict death ImNoSensei [-\]: but 5 ... Joes [2k\]: White, please get out of here fukui [2d\]: 2p Chardonnay [1k\]: w look more dead go1d [4d\]: ok Scoubidoo [2d\]: bao is 11d :) tildebis [4d?\]: W dead HamatoYosh [-\]: w look ok Prinny [1k\]: b's play looked really weak though, of course ] ;W[qd]WL[30]OW[1]C[smogogo [6k\]: look ok yes Prinny [1k\]: maybe someone stole his account Prinny [1k\]: haha sophtpaw [5k\]: B overplay tassel [2k\]: middle doesn't die quick, are q16 and r11 alive for sire` ] ;B[pc]BL[30]OB[5]C[tassel [2k\]: *sure? Intake [2d\]: big groups dont die lurrch1313 [2k\]: middle dies pretty quick Midorya [2d\]: they do Pinguschaf [-\]: anyway it was not supposed to get so complicated like this PlumeMoi [1k\]: ko! paintcan [2d\]: middle group has kos drunkeye [5k\]: oh its not? paintcan [2d\]: i think b will lose Violence [?\]: R9? lurrch1313 [2k\]: especially if b gets l13 ] ;W[kg]WL[30]OW[1]C[murai [1k\]: time tildebis [4d?\]: time ] ;B[qc]BL[30]OB[5]C[NickSib [2d\]: why not r18 for w? NickSib [2d\]: that seemed silly tildebis [4d?\]: B+time :) Chuky [2d\]: ya wonder too go1d [4d\]: :) Mulugruntz [8k\]: l7 smogogo [6k\]: j15? kevinwm [2k\]: b getting too many libs kefo [9k\]: tough to keep everything alive long enough ? ] ;W[rc]WL[30]OW[1]C[kevinwm [2k\]: could kill center ] ;B[rb]BL[30]OB[5]C[Violence [?\]: ko? Violence [?\]: S15? ] ;W[rk]WL[30]OW[1]C[Mulugruntz [8k\]: loss by time ? kevinwm [2k\]: b just going to live there. moetero [1k\]: i'd hit that ] ;B[rd]BL[30]OB[5]C[svgo [3k\]: what was up with L13? pasky [-\]: is the j15 cut of any use? if not, why l13? sophtpaw [5k\]: semeai fukui [2d\]: over U.U kevinwm [2k\]: w will try to kill p10 Chardonnay [1k\]: game over, w dead kevinwm [2k\]: but I don't see it happening lurrch1313 [2k\]: b side not alive ] ;W[re]WL[30]OW[1]C[Midorya [2d\]: l13 eye tassel [2k\]: w bang bang ] ;B[sc]BL[30]OB[5]C[YusufS [4k\]: sorry I don't know much about Bao Yun, and I mean no disrespect, but it he blind? I mean medically blind? in that he is the master of blind go? pasky [-\]: midorya: but what good is it? tildebis [4d?\]: Q11 is B sente so W dead kevinwm [2k\]: 1 eye helps in semeai ImNoSensei [-\]: no, he's just good at blind go gnoof2: r13 before t17 is better kevinwm [2k\]: w lost semeai for sure without eye smogogo [6k\]: can j15 make something for white? ] ;W[ie]WL[30]OW[1]C[guiguistar [1d\]: tout mourrir comme dirait fanhui pasky [-\]: hmm did he ] ;B[jd]BL[30]OB[5]C[smogogo [6k\]: lol troutmask [9k?\]: blindfolded go Joes [2k\]: W is planning to lose with time Midorya [2d\]: maybe wanted to win against p10 murai [1k\]: J16 ........ YusufS [4k\]: ah ok, who is that famous blind player then? Violence [?\]: Every blind game, he wagers his eyes against his opponent's eyes. He clearly still has both of his. Chardonnay [1k\]: dunno wat w doing ] ;W[sf]WL[30]OW[1]C[kevinwm [2k\]: q13 Mikiso [1k\]: time doidohoi [8k\]: time is problem Midorya [2d\]: how can you play blind on teh interentz? allex [6k\]: timesuji kevinwm [2k\]: q13 kefo [9k\]: could have bet his ear instead Bristol [1d?\]: r13? paintcan [2d\]: l;ol ] ;B[ml]BL[30]OB[5]C[moetero [1k\]: lol blackrain [7k\]: medicaly blind go caps out at low kyu levels lurrch1313 [2k\]: can b just kill? tildebis [4d?\]: yes kevinwm [2k\]: no - r13 right ] ;W[lm]WL[30]OW[1]C[tildebis [4d?\]: B can kill ] ;B[ok]BL[30]OB[5]C[liusasori [3k\]: p9 was sente MATb [3d\]: getting ko-hot kevinwm [2k\]: eye is important accountB [7k\]: p9 was gote for white i thought Chardonnay [1k\]: b trying to make seki? TeeSushi [2d\]: good old seki tildebis [4d?\]: now resign zaphodb [1d\]: why didn't w p9? kevinwm [2k\]: seki= win for b Eucaryote [?\]: R10 ? lurrch1313 [2k\]: no seki Violence [?\]: seki looks impossible.. Meyerhold [2k\]: only temporary kevinwm [2k\]: because of death ] ;W[qg]WL[30]OW[1]C[Violence [?\]: .looks like ko murai [1k\]: no time !!!!!!!!!!! murai [1k\]: ^^ kevinwm [2k\]: just temporary (collapsing) seki TeeSushi [2d\]: yes temporary ] ;B[sh]BL[30]OB[5]C[Khouphrane [4d\]: nox resign is tesuji Chardonnay [1k\]: but center dead Khouphrane [4d\]: now Violence [?\]: R10 kevinwm [2k\]: resign is gote ] ;W[qj]WL[30]OW[1] ;B[pi]BL[30]OB[5]C[Eucaryote [?\]: :-) fredley [2k\]: sente leshogun2 [3d\]: white resign ] ;W[rj]WL[30]OW[1] ;B[sd]BL[30]OB[5]C[Violence [?\]: This ko is impossible to win Violence [?\]: it's a pity. kevinwm [2k\]: Not a ko ImNoSensei [-\]: what ko ? Prinny [1k\]: hum moetero [1k\]: what ko? go1d [4d\]: no ko quinoa [1k\]: ko go1d [4d\]: '_' thegoudboy [3k\]: wooow Chardonnay [1k\]: this is fake seki ericdai [9d\]: thnks ericdai [9d\]: :) unknownplr [9d\]: thx unknownplr [9d\]: hehe murai [1k\]: good job dai FrozenLuck [1k\]: another game! DrumsMan [2d\]: nice lemuria [1d\]: gote seki means death all over the board deft [4d\]: rematch! GaIaxy [2d\]: respect ericdai [9d\]: haha Khouphrane [4d\]: xiexie nimen Anekdoten [6k\]: ericdai rules Mulugruntz [8k\]: nice game ericdai [9d\]: nce gam go1d [4d\]: yeah dai ! ericdai [9d\]: i go dinner now ericdai [9d\]: see you sophtpaw [5k\]: another game for the forum go1d [4d\]: t'es le meilleur '_' paintcan [2d\]: revenge!! paintcan [2d\]: noo!! Mikiso [1k\]: lol king8egg [5d\]: 鲍云厉害 unknownplr [9d\]: so bad mistake Nownow: can I suguesst all 9d rengo game? Best ever on KGS TotoroShan [2d\]: 9d doesn't need to eat Slug [3k\]: oooh king8egg [5d\]: 鲍云报仇!!! TotoroShan [2d\]: don't lie to us ! PlumeMoi [1k\]: what 9dan have to dinner? Gzperi [5k\]: lol DrumsMan [2d\]: lol totoro Slug [3k\]: dan rengo... cerebra [3k\]: 9d rengo! Cassis0 [3d\]: 9d's can't rengo liusasori [3k\]: ?? PlumeMoi [1k\]: 9 dan eat stones liusasori [3k\]: why? DrumsMan [2d\]: lol oneye [5k\]: why all is possible in life Cassis0 [3d\]: like richter, karajan and ostraik cant play together bouahah liusasori [3k\]: ??? Midorya [2d\]: karajan? liusasori [3k\]: en français Midorya [2d\]: it's a nice raid liusasori [3k\]: sa veut dire quoio TotoroShan [2d\]: who are karajan and ostraik ? liusasori [3k\]: ? king8egg [5d\]: ericdai, u shouldu play spandc king8egg [5d\]: he is the strongest player on kgs king8egg [5d\]: when he comes on Mulugruntz [8k\]: unknownplr [9d\]: so bad mistake <--- where was his mistake ? slyhooky [19k\]: karayan a player? FrozenLuck [1k\]: mulu: he's not here anymore LugPaj [2d\]: Mulu, not killing f7 grop Mulugruntz [8k\]: there are 9d Mulugruntz [8k\]: LugPaj : when could he have done that ? FrozenLuck [1k\]: be4 b h8 slyhooky [19k\]: someone can tell me why w resigned ? LugPaj [2d\]: when he played l9 Mulugruntz [8k\]: slyhooky : w lost all his stones in the center FrozenLuck [1k\]: w lost tats y he resignt... slyhooky [19k\]: thankyou but he has all libertyes neded Mulugruntz [8k\]: ericdai : tu feras un commentaire de cette partie ? FrozenLuck [1k\]: i wanna c pianist play a game.... charlesss [13k\]: its so hard to play aggresive like this charlesss [13k\]: i wonder how ericdai managed to keep all his groups alive elfking [6k\]: it's a gorgeous board elfking [6k\]: t16 is a very hard move to find charlesss [13k\]: what do u mean charlesss [13k\]: ? elfking [6k\]: well do you see why white loses? elfking [6k\]: the race? charlesss [13k\]: yes i know why charlesss [13k\]: i dont see why t16 was played Mulugruntz [8k\]: charlesss : when a so huge group dies, usually the opponent saves everything ChemBoy613 [-\]: prevents ko elfking [6k\]: t16 was played to kill r15 elfking [6k\]: r15 is dead unconditionally now charlesss [13k\]: ah the ko elfking [6k\]: rather than ko charlesss [13k\]: i see charlesss [13k\]: i thought that r15 was daed unconditionally already elfking [6k\]: you see s12 is also dying charlesss [13k\]: so i thought black could have played elsewhere elfking [6k\]: both have one eye so it could have become a seki elfking [6k\]: however elfking [6k\]: there is bad aji at q7 elfking [6k\]: that gives black extra liberty to kill white elfking [6k\]: it's the loss of r14 that is painful elfking [6k\]: if it we had a stone at r7 elfking [6k\]: for white elfking [6k\]: then it would be seki elfking [6k\]: may be white could go on charlesss [13k\]: or even q7 charlesss [13k\]: haha that sucks elfking [6k\]: yeah elfking [6k\]: q7 or r7 charlesss [13k\]: i just played it out elfking [6k\]: basically protecting the q7 stone charlesss [13k\]: i see why that t16 was urgent now elfking [6k\]: yes but would we be able to find it that quickly or at all on the board? :) Loop [4k\]: maybe O13 at N13 charlesss [13k\]: haha elfking [6k\]: n13 was played long long before Loop [4k\]: ? Loop [4k\]: when W O13 elfking [6k\]: ah elfking [6k\]: lol elfking [6k\]: yes elfking [6k\]: but then n15 elfking [6k\]: is very severe elfking [6k\]: o13 portects o15 elfking [6k\]: otherwise elfking [6k\]: n13 n15 m16 o15 (sente) l13 n17 is severe i think elfking [6k\]: .. elfking [6k\]: but that's just 6k talking :) elfking [6k\]: and even my 6k is suspect Loop [4k\]: not m16 Loop [4k\]: o 15 Loop [4k\]: black cant N16 then Loop [4k\]: so its sente ])