(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[300]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[MilanMilan]PB[doodle]WR[9d]BR[9d]DT[2008-03-14]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[MilanMilan [9d?\]: hi,
]RE[W+Resign]
;B[pd]BL[294.234]C[doodle [9d\]: hi
]
;W[dp]WL[297.911]
;B[pp]BL[287.283]
;W[dd]WL[295.497]
;B[cj]BL[282.827]C[Sampi [3k\]: w is so going down
]
;W[nq]WL[281.553]C[FabienO [?\]: Hello
]
;B[qn]BL[278.988]C[Sampi [3k\]: Hi there
ChemBoy613 [-\]: very normal fuseki
]
;W[pr]WL[273.535]
;B[qq]BL[274.446]
;W[kq]WL[272.073]
;B[cn]BL[265.381]
;W[fp]WL[266.642]C[winInKFC [-\]: who is stronger ?
]
;B[cp]BL[260.039]
;W[cq]WL[264.611]C[ChemBoy613 [-\]: dunno
]
;B[bq]BL[255.012]C[Sampi [3k\]: doodle is always stronger :P
]
;W[dq]WL[258.214]C[ChemBoy613 [-\]: not doubting doodle's strength
winInKFC [-\]: ah, both also 9d
]
;B[bo]BL[236.674]C[pinkfloyd [3k\]: they played before
]
;W[fc]WL[254.659]C[pinkfloyd [3k\]: milan has won
Holmes [-\]: last time milanmilan won
ImMrFixit [3k\]: cools
]
;B[nc]BL[233.375]C[DaveKlein [8k\]: well, yesterday doodle lost to him
Sampi [3k\]: adn doodle lost, I know
]
;W[jd]WL[248.802]C[Sampi [3k\]: but he got lucky
]
;B[pi]BL[224.514]
;W[no]WL[243.689]C[pinkfloyd [3k\]: i was planing to sleep 
]
;B[qe]BL[209.681]C[ImMrFixit [3k\]: c15 ?
ImMrFixit [3k\]: wow pink so was i
FabienO [?\]: I like standard fuseki.. allows for a better learning experience.
]
;W[do]WL[227.828]C[M87F [7k\]: seems straight forward so far
TheDrift [2d\]: get another beer pink ^^
ImMrFixit [3k\]: not now tho
]
;B[dl]BL[203.677]C[ImMrFixit [3k\]: lol
ImMrFixit [3k\]: ill get a frap
]
;W[pm]WL[222.242]
;B[qm]BL[200.665]
;W[pk]WL[220.602]C[DaveKlein [8k\]: I rather stick to the opinion that you don't know what you're talking about trying to judge the strength of high-dans, samp
DaveKlein [8k\]: ^^
]
;B[jp]BL[195.693]C[pinkfloyd [3k\]: they finished dirft :((
]
;W[jq]WL[217.921]
;B[hp]BL[193.634]C[ChemBoy613 [-\]: ooohhhh beer sounds good
Sampi [3k\]: hehe Dave
]
;W[hn]WL[214.825]C[pinkfloyd [3k\]: do you have one for me=?
Sampi [3k\]: I'm just kidding
ImMrFixit [3k\]: lol pink
TheDrift [2d\]: bad news :(
TheDrift [2d\]: i have 3 more 
]
;B[kp]BL[179.966]C[pinkfloyd [3k\]: lucky guy
ImMrFixit [3k\]: lol
]
;W[lp]WL[203.41]C[DaveKlein [8k\]: and I don't care who wins anyway, as long as they put a show like yesterday's....
]
;B[jn]BL[164.163]C[FabienO [?\]: Milan hasnt lost a game yet.
Sampi [3k\]: I know w could easily be stronger than doodle but its fun to blidly and fanatically follow a 9d
]
;W[iq]WL[190.416]C[DaveKlein [8k\]: hehe
]
;B[ho]BL[160.001]
;W[hq]WL[189.517]C[Sampi [3k\]: its part of the kgs experience ;)
DaveKlein [8k\]: that's the true spirit of fanatism...
mentat [2k\]: we all know, it sampi
ImMrFixit [3k\]: im just going to predict doodle winning
]
;B[gn]BL[140.539]
;W[ql]WL[187.383]C[FabienO [?\]: poor Bulle, He was Milan's first opponenent, he was also 17kyu :D
LugPaj [2d\]: Milan's last win was close i think
MrShintou [4d\]: white is incredible.
mentat [2k\]: yeab, doodle is so takin it easy
]
;B[pn]BL[129.053]C[solowolfs [7k\]: any body know who is w?
LugPaj [2d\]: should be difficult to win versus doodle
MrShintou [4d\]: another one of jeff chang's friends
]
;W[om]WL[176.765]C[ImMrFixit [3k\]: lol wow, no 5d+ here cept for the two playing
M87F [7k\]: KGS needs a betting service
FabienO [?\]: Why would Milan play a 17kyu? :-/
DaveKlein [8k\]: to get a rank....
cdude [2d\]: b good result in center i think
DaveKlein [8k\]: =D
FabienO [?\]: but 17kyu, thats just mean.
]
;B[qr]BL[99.257]C[TheDrift [2d\]: bwin should add Go
DaveKlein [8k\]: of course, was just kidding...
DaveKlein [8k\]: ^^
]
;W[ce]WL[159.79]
;B[cg]BL[95.561]
;W[lc]WL[156.783]C[halo3rulez [18k\]: milan only lost once and that was to doodle
solowolfs [7k\]: b is no mor  No1 in kgs
pinkfloyd [3k\]: w has interesting rank grap..
ChemBoy613 [-\]: only player I blihndly and fanatically follow is artem.. the other mid-dans I follow are friends... then I just love watching the high dans because of strength
halo3rulez [18k\]: no wait he beat doodle 
]
;B[cc]BL[73.762]
;W[bd]WL[152.736]C[mentat [2k\]: he dit
mentat [2k\]: did
solowolfs [7k\]: oh..33
]
;B[hc]BL[66.182]C[halo3rulez [18k\]: he is undefeated
]
;W[he]WL[148.549]C[DreamN [7k\]: seems even
]
;B[gd]BL[64.473]C[imanoob [3k?\]: milan = bigticket
solowolfs [7k\]: see the invade
]
;W[ff]WL[143.5]
;B[fd]BL[62.674]C[shinigami [1d\]: W undefeated... wow
]
;W[dc]WL[139.844]C[ImMrFixit [3k\]: lol
TheDrift [2d\]: milan lost to arsenal
clownbelt [1d\]: hey
clownbelt [1d\]: our team was tired
]
;B[jb]BL[35.061]C[manakem10 [5k\]: no soccer, go please
]
;W[jc]WL[133.632]
;B[kb]BL[32.772]C[ImMrFixit [3k\]: ^_^
]
;W[lb]WL[132.457]C[clownbelt [1d\]: its called football
arara [1k\]: :)
Sampi [3k\]: i wonder how b plans to live
]
;B[eb]BL[16.73]C[pinkfloyd [3k\]: :))
ardarda [16k\]: f18
ImMrFixit [3k\]: indeed seems hard for b
]
;W[ec]WL[111.884]C[solowolfs [7k\]: b could have 2eye?
DaveKlein [8k\]: well, sampi - now you definitely *are* my hero...
manakem10 [5k\]: anyway you slice it, 22 men running after one ball
]
;B[ic]BL[9.125]
;W[oc]WL[104.551]C[DreamN [7k\]: omg, b lives
Sampi [3k\]: whys that? :P
DaveKlein [8k\]: had lost this picture in a hdd-crash...
DaveKlein [8k\]: kgs ...
ChemBoy613 [-\]: doodle = bigbadwolf = andy liu I believe
DaveKlein [8k\]: I love it...
DaveKlein [8k\]: =D
pinkfloyd [3k\]: yes..you tries to put 361 stones on one board called go
]
;B[od]BL[30]OB[5]C[M87F [7k\]: go, puting stones on a piece of wood
FabienO [?\]: What if it's seki at 360?
]
;W[nd]WL[95.376]C[M87F [7k\]: sounds equally thrilling
ImMrFixit [3k\]: lol
Lynx [2d\]: w leads
imanoob [3k?\]: 361 not possible
]
;B[nb]BL[30]OB[5]C[winInKFC [-\]: there's never been 360 stone placed on the board...
]
;W[ob]WL[88.322]C[FabienO [?\]: including takes?
]
;B[fb]BL[30]OB[5]C[FabienO [?\]: capture even
pinkfloyd [3k\]: 19*19 = 361
]
;W[db]WL[83.085]C[pinkfloyd [3k\]: :)
DaveKlein [8k\]: well, there would be liberty-issues...
ChemBoy613 [-\]: 357 max i suppose
Sampi [3k\]: h19 ?
BUM [6d\]: Milan is strong :)
]
;B[md]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[ne]WL[79.543]
;B[me]BL[30]OB[5]C[BUM [6d\]: funny account
ImMrFixit [3k\]: how so
imanoob [3k?\]: 361 would be illegal position
imanoob [3k?\]: 360 max
Sampi [3k\]: it depends on the captures
FabienO [?\]: unless the 361th stone was a cpature
pinkfloyd [3k\]: you dont need to capture
]
;W[nf]WL[48.431]
;B[mc]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[mf]WL[47.555]C[pinkfloyd [3k\]: just put
manakem10 [5k\]: i believe there was a pro match eith about 380 moves - and a lot of captured stones
imanoob [3k?\]: then there wouldn't be 361 stones on the board
FabienO [?\]: do if opponent wont resign :D
]
;B[le]BL[30]OB[5]C[pasky [-\]: iirc longest pro game is about 430 moves
imanoob [3k?\]: this looks ugly btw
pinkfloyd [3k\]: 19*19 = 361 basic math
maista [8k\]: B in trouble there
BUM [6d\]: sansan
]
;W[ld]WL[29.165]C[DreamN [7k\]: nope white in trouble
imanoob [3k?\]: both in trouble
pasky [-\]: basically you start ko at early middlegame and keep playing it until late yose or something :)
Sampi [3k\]: j19 doesnt work?
BUM [6d\]: b in trouble I would say
]
;B[kf]BL[30]OB[5]C[poirette [2k\]: nice w shapes
winInKFC [-\]: all i can see is c17 is in trouble
imanoob [3k?\]: the trick is to start a molasses ko, then game can last 1000+ moves :)
]
;W[qc]WL[12.623]C[pinkfloyd [3k\]: why i feel..w is ondrej silt 
shinigami [1d\]: i guess B's dead up there since he's not playing there
]
;B[pc]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[pb]WL[10.029]
;B[rc]BL[30]OB[5]C[imanoob [3k?\]: w is bigticket
Sampi [3k\]: but it can live.... right?
]
;W[rb]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[qd]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[qb]WL[30]OW[5]C[Bruno [1k\]: ko
FabienO [?\]: He is?
Sampi [3k\]: i mean, unless im misreading (which is likely)
imanoob [3k?\]: well, that's my guess
winInKFC [-\]: imanoob, you meant tripple ko ?
tromp [-\]: w live in ko
mentat [2k\]: w dead in sente
BUM [6d\]: milan very strong
TheOne [-\]: thats my guess also, imanoob
NomDePlume [5k\]: nasty ko
]
;B[sd]BL[30]OB[5]C[secondslee [3k\]: wO19 wP19
cdude [2d\]: bo19
]
;W[je]WL[30]OW[5]C[poirette [2k\]: p19?
TheDrift [2d\]: w is TheOne
IWantSleep [1k\]: i w wins, it's 3rd tartrate level, win with doodle who won with gentlerain who won with tartrate.. wow
Sampi [3k\]: i doubt it
]
;B[na]BL[30]OB[5]C[tromp [-\]: is the a TheOtherOne ?
imanoob [3k?\]: tartrate^3.. wow
]
;W[ka]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ja]BL[30]OB[5]C[Sampi [3k\]: ?!?!
cdude [2d\]: fake tartrate
]
;W[la]WL[30]OW[5]C[DaveKlein [8k\]: since I neither know who theone or bigticket is anyway, I strangely do not care...
winInKFC [-\]: i hope kgs new feature allow us to watch the player's face thrue webcam
winInKFC [-\]: during game
VlHorowitz [2k?\]: guys.. win and loss is just win and loss
]
;B[gf]BL[30]OB[5]C[FlameBlade [-\]: omg, a fake 2k!
FabienO [?\]: KFC wants to see his opponent struggle -_-
FlameBlade [-\]: ;)
dat: as the eurogotv games showed, that was not very interesting
VlHorowitz [2k?\]: win and loss is byeong ga sang sa we say in Korean :P
TheOne [-\]: hope b wins
]
;W[ge]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[fe]BL[30]OB[5]C[Iplay4u [?\]: You Talk To Much
]
;W[ef]WL[30]OW[5]C[winInKFC [-\]: who is winning ?
]
;B[gc]BL[30]OB[5]C[Sampi [3k\]: im confused
Bruno [1k\]: who's Much?
]
;W[ea]WL[30]OW[5]C[Sampi [3k\]: looks dead
Violence [?\]: Doodle power
NomDePlume [5k\]: how does that live?
]
;B[ie]BL[30]OB[5]C[Sampi [3k\]: 9d magic
imanoob [3k?\]: this is so confusing
Violence [?\]: It lives because it kills the surrounding.
imanoob [3k?\]: w thinks!
Bruno [1k\]: w losing
Sampi [3k\]: indeed :P
kendo [3d\]: who is w? he has no loses oO
]
;W[if]WL[30]OW[4]C[anthony20 [8k\]: j14
]
;B[id]BL[30]OB[5]C[tromp [-\]: w thinks he shldve played k14 earlier?
]
;W[jf]WL[30]OW[4]C[NomDePlume [5k\]: coo!
Sampi [3k\]: l13 too much of an overplay?
maista [8k\]: wow
imakid [8k\]: h14 ?
]
;B[hf]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[lf]WL[30]OW[4]C[reprisal [3d?\]: a rock and a hard place
imanoob [3k?\]: wow...
FabienO [?\]: :tough
Sampi [3k\]: what?!
MilanMilan [9d?\]: thx
imakid [8k\]: ?
IWantSleep [1k\]: 3t
doodle [9d\]: thx
ChemBoy613 [-\]: finished already
anthony20 [8k\]: oh dead
DaveKlein [8k\]: holy smoke...
maista [8k\]: wth
imanoob [3k?\]: w too pro
halo3rulez [18k\]: thats the same way it ended last tem
halo3rulez [18k\]: time
anthony20 [8k\]: nice
imakid [8k\]: wow
BUM [6d\]: milan strong
imakid [8k\]: good game
kendo [3d\]: w is qsefthuko
zzzzzza [4k\]: w strong
pinkfloyd [3k\]: one more !
DreamN [7k\]: b greed got him
Bruno [1k\]: why resign?
FabienO [?\]: greed!?
imakid [8k\]: b die there
GoJohnGo [9k?\]: o19 group dead?
FabienO [?\]: o19 capture
imanoob [3k?\]: trying to live is not greed :)
imanoob [3k?\]: w just too strong
maista [8k\]: omg white
maista [8k\]: sick
BUM [6d\]: doodle has to rematch
imakid [8k\]: good game doodle
MrShintou [4d\]: doodle.
MrShintou [4d\]: he is impossible ><
halo3rulez [18k\]: this is already the second time they played though
SunnyD [3d\]: Barack no helo, Juice is the savior
BUM [6d\]: b cant be satisfate
IWantSleep [1k\]: TheOne, why you gave up the rank?
fickle [6k?\]: I'd really like to see a slower game between those two.
kendo [3d\]: beating doodle twice in a row thats crazy
imakid [8k\]: ditto
maista [8k\]: why has white a "?" in his rank?
youngster [?\]: cuz he hasnt lost
halo3rulez [18k\]: do u have to lose to have a set rank
FabienO [?\]: Does the time of resignation count for anthing?
manakem10 [5k\]: nope
manakem10 [5k\]: how big the win is, doesnt matter too
FabienO [?\]: No diff between resign and point loss?
manakem10 [5k\]: as far as i know, yes
maista [8k\]: D5 move looks so sloow to me. can anyone expalin please?
halo3rulez [18k\]: there playing again\\\]
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