(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[0.50]TM[1800]OT[3x30 byo-yomi] PW[tartrate]PB[gentlerain]BR[9d]DT[2008-03-05]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[Boo [9d?\]: FIRST ww [3k\]: hi mom! Kosai [1k\]: woo! AWA [5k\]: WOOO HOOO Zureiyaa [-\]: lol kitty4katt [7k\]: YAY Affligem [7k\]: woooo go tartrate MetallicaX [3d\]: yes LTL92 [2k\]: 10th Shana [1d\]: WOOT! Fredda [-\]: lol imanoob [3k?\]: It's on :) Koyoko [2k\]: =D findaway [?\]: omg I945 [2d\]: lol neque [?\]: go tartrate johncena [16k\]: ya YusufS [4k\]: WOOOOOOOOOhooooooo! pulp [1d\]: wowowowowowowowwowowowoowowowo Kirby [2k\]: yahoo Noobnoob [6k\]: ship it tartrate [?\]: hi goprodigy [3d\]: hmmm Fredda [-\]: JOHN KARLSSON = TARTRATE kitty4katt [7k\]: WOOOOOT iTengen [8k\]: TEEENGEEEN trappman [9k\]: goggoogoogogog dinnertime [4k\]: go tartrate mike2096 [7k\]: wooty Justblack [3k\]: omg omg Avesarius [1k\]: ^^ mach1 [-\]: please be quiet Affligem [7k\]: woooo go tartrate Justblack [3k\]: omg MetallicaX [3d\]: awsome Zureiyaa [-\]: lol.. mike2096 [7k\]: yea LTL92 [2k\]: ..... pr4wn [5k\]: scene Justblack [3k\]: omg teamochi [11k\]: YES mike2096 [7k\]: woo Midorya [2d\]: place your bets! arara [2k\]: SHUT UP PPL battousai1: wow and I get to watch from start Kscnoko123 [1k\]: INVINCIBLE!!! Dratinice [3d\]: kibitz flying Dusty [19k\]: SHHHH Tarka [9k\]: Onogaeshimasu! Hydro47 [-\]: Wow trappman [9k\]: wooooooohhooooooo! findaway [?\]: OMG VincentMA [3d\]: quiet! sentience [1k?\]: wooooot MetallicaX [3d\]: holy crap Fredda [-\]: BOO = Tartrate sweety [-\]: Be quiet!! CBlue [1d?\]: epic lemuria [1k\]: go go go ! Ithmatic [3k\]: wohoo kendo [3d\]: lol Midorya [2d\]: lol goprodigy [3d\]: everyone stop Zygen [6k?\]: holy jesus BLikeVodka: *fapfapfap* MetallicaX [3d\]: OMG Shana [1d\]: lol awesome flooding before even first move johncena [16k\]: wooooooooooooooooo kokolores [5d\]: so empty KintaroOe [10k\]: hey, fallen, kendo :D tofuboy [-\]: this is the game ppl wanna watchi... Koyoko [2k\]: instant 400 people MetallicaX [3d\]: HAHAHAHA YagamiKun [8k\]: enough is enough teamochi [11k\]: wow..... slowgo [5d\]: rofl Justblack [3k\]: amen gentlerain [9d\]: hi~ YamaB [4d\]: 0.5 komi goprodigy [3d\]: seriously stop MetallicaX [3d\]: so fast mach1 [-\]: Calm down LTL92 [2k\]: you people are dumb -_- Serror [7k\]: help ]RE[B+Time] ;B[qd]BL[1768.424]C[trappman [9k\]: yah! nanaroz [9k\]: have fun :) Krisps [6d?\]: incredible ^^ fireman [14k\]: go tar trade Kscnoko123 [1k\]: komoku MetallicaX [3d\]: cant calm so exciting ] ;W[pp]WL[1793.815]C[sweety [-\]: *Opens the boot windows* Omicron [-\]: nice HotLobster [11k\]: stop battousai1: quiet everybody,the match has started mike2096 [7k\]: oo dankenzon [6k\]: yes... let's help keeping some quiet behavior HotLobster [11k\]: I want to watch the game goprodigy [3d\]: his first game in forever, so please stop Koyoko [2k\]: geez q4 is so strong ] ;B[dd]BL[1754.743]C[ketchup [6k?\]: enjoy :) aspar [8k\]: yeah AWA [5k\]: you think normal opening or crazy? ericosman [1k\]: why is this go history, what's all the hub, bub ? kendo [3d\]: the game of the century ] ;W[cp]WL[1788.269]C[derPlumps [1k\]: indeed teamochi [11k\]: hmmmm Zirconium [13k\]: some high-level dans should comment on the game, tartrate appreciates that. ] ;B[kc]BL[1746.743]C[Omicron [-\]: chinese fireman [14k\]: gogogogogogo Hu [4k?\]: 501 observers already. johncena [16k\]: game of the centurey kendo [3d\]: lol Zureiyaa [-\]: 0,5 komi YagamiKun [8k\]: chinese fuseki hmm MetallicaX [3d\]: chinese ] ;W[qm]WL[1776.703]C[MWing [-\]: chinese opening OceanMon [8k\]: black lost Javaness [-\]: chinese opening from gentlerain, he expects to win ikami [1k\]: OMG 4 and 500 viewers Sponge7 [2d\]: WOAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH AWA [5k\]: lol it's up top in EGR ] ;B[ep]BL[1738.783]C[LTL92 [2k\]: when tartrate sees these useless comments he's ognna run away for another couple years -_- Zureiyaa [-\]: hee? monboubou [2k?\]: plz stop leapord [10k\]: 517 and climing Javaness [-\]: R7 quite an unusual response Mu [7k\]: jeez people calm down comboy [?\]: go tartrate ! Sponge7 [2d\]: this is SPARTAAAAAA Benja [15k\]: :o kendo [3d\]: interesting start Benja [15k\]: qoq marfack [-\]: Please be quiet Dusty [19k\]: oh edenhall [7k?\]: the game is cloned by big event go there shinigami [1d\]: B does chinese, yet isn't he a former korean insei? Prodigious [3d\]: I've seen R7 in pro games lately godude [7k\]: !plz Javaness [-\]: white will doubtless H4 Mu [7k\]: hard to concentrate on the game with 100000 messages a minute going over here trappman [9k\]: go tartrate! Violence [?\]: R7 is a common, modern move used lately. kitty4katt [7k\]: be quiet InExtremis [-\]: mu, just clone the game Kosai [1k\]: doubtless, Java? :) Zirconium [13k\]: yes, please comments on the game (high level dans only). try and keep the comments useful please. teamochi [11k\]: Whitew shoudl asnwer e3... mike2096 [7k\]: g3 mu haha ericosman [1k\]: it is quiet, all I hear is the click of their stones LTL92 [2k\]: violenceis high dan, lets listen to him Benja [15k\]: who is winning? battousai1: alright,the fights begun.. isshoni [5k\]: thanks, Violence ] ;W[gp]WL[1734.991]C[copacetik [2k\]: any dans on the reasoning behind r7? YusufS [4k\]: what is the best joseki choice in this situatiton? Violence [?\]: The idea is that the lower right becomes solid and it's not as easy for black to make a moyo. Noobnoob [6k\]: I like g4 AWA [5k\]: R7 looks so wierd though... Longshi [4d\]: ogeima is very common when white has komoku in lower right Kscnoko123 [1k\]: r7 is just another form of fuseki Kirby [2k\]: r7 is fine Javaness [-\]: D7 is possible fallen [5k\]: jump out for b? Kscnoko123 [1k\]: there is no good or bad ] ;B[dm]BL[1719.769]C[Mu [7k\]: r7 is fabulous Javaness [-\]: D4 joseki now Hu [4k?\]: Any good high-level dan clones of this game in operation now, for good nonsense-free commentary? Murugandi [3d\]: this comment-flow in insane, nobody can read all that shit Zeid [2d\]: mm can this be a fake one?? he has registrat his accout at 17-06-2007 johncena [16k\]: every one is watching you guys Uberdude [3d?\]: d7 bad says my joseki dict. Benja [15k\]: amazing Uberdude [3d?\]: d4 findaway [?\]: b has no chance Javaness [-\]: your joseki dictionary is out of date Uber bobkun [1k\]: OMG!!! is REALY HE!! ] ;W[dp]WL[1706.894]C[Zirconium [13k\]: yea, we don't need any kyu comments in here. Kosai [1k\]: Uberdude: Throw out your joseki dict. pulp [1d\]: oO ] ;B[eo]BL[1715.504]C[ericosman [1k\]: e4 made g4 too good. i like k3 instead of e4 Kirby [2k\]: hmm ] ;W[eq]WL[1705.133]C[Longshi [4d\]: isn't that a trick move ? ] ;B[fq]BL[1712.885]C[Affligem [7k\]: BigEvent's clone is better, no crap kendo [3d\]: hoho ] ;W[fp]WL[1703.439]C[RW [4d\]: gosensei famously said, anything goes in the opening. I think t's feeble-minded to comment on the first 10 moves. Javaness [-\]: new joseki Uberdude [3d?\]: not with close pincer Mu [7k\]: Hu there is a commentary by Hourousha who is 7dan or so ] ;B[fr]BL[1709.184]C[MetallicaX [3d\]: this is insane ] ;W[dq]WL[1700.677]C[kitty4katt [7k\]: wow battousai1: shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh teamochi [11k\]: I wasn't expeting the cut ] ;B[hq]BL[1707.623]C[MWing [-\]: they're playing a bit too fast nanaroz [9k\]: impossible to read anything Zureiyaa [-\]: is tartrate gonna start playing again? ] ;W[en]WL[1697.586]C[YusufS [4k\]: is this really new? ] ;B[kq]BL[1703.411]C[Magnusjen [13k\]: wish i could shut of the chat box LTL92 [2k\]: i wasn't expecting this game to go so fast O_O Magnusjen [13k\]: gezz beorn [9k\]: stop flooding please!!! ] ;W[fo]WL[1691.742]C[Javaness [-\]: i think both players are quite strong topfar [1d\]: D7 was a bad move! MetallicaX [3d\]: yay Zirconium [13k\]: only if he can get comments on the game that are useful to others. vices [4d\]: does anyone know if r7 is a new devlopment, or just for fun? elegantcow [17k\]: shhhhhhhhh ikami [1k\]: is tartrate strong ? godude [7k\]: shhhh Woodstock [-\]: use the clone game then Mu [7k\]: but you have to be a member of the tigersmouth club to see it i think MWing [-\]: how about only dans can comment? godude [7k\]: shhhhh LTL92 [2k\]: ... HotLobster [11k\]: stop flooding godude [7k\]: shhhh RobertT [9k?\]: wow 575 observers imanoob [3k?\]: what just happened? ericosman [1k\]: wow, black managed to make nice position in white's area godude [7k\]: stop it plz Midorya [2d\]: b pwned? Zirconium [13k\]: topfar, please explain, that comment isn't useful unless you tell us why imanoob [3k?\]: I don't get it Slug [3k\]: already a capture =O Uberdude [3d?\]: b won't o3 now as that helps w take corner? Benja [15k\]: 584 now HotLobster [11k\]: stop flooding Fredda [-\]: joseki Koyoko [2k\]: this is the first game that i've ever seen played live by tartrate Shana [1d\]: i think w got better result here fallen [5k\]: no constructive comments unlike the old games :( imanoob [3k?\]: this looks too good for white... teamochi [11k\]: Same gos for me koyoko Hagios [7k\]: I'd like to know what high dans think of R7 vs Q10 and Q13 (two other common responses) Nyanjilla [-\]: keep the comments on this game, and intelligent too kitty4katt [7k\]: but b has sente ] ;B[cg]BL[1660.086]C[ericosman [1k\]: o3 looks juicy Kirby [2k\]: b's not that bad nanaroz [9k\]: impossible to read anything, just stop it kendo [3d\]: its joseki? MWing [-\]: black is not bad ] ;W[mq]WL[1686.755]C[CBlue [1d?\]: dear admins, we NEED more advaned chat filters PLEASE! Zureiyaa [-\]: tartrate plays fast isshoni [5k\]: what s horousha's room again? AWA [5k\]: r7, ok, fine...n3??? Kscnoko123 [1k\]: what is this? Zygen [6k?\]: tartrate made an empty triangle? Zureiyaa [-\]: so confident glue [-\]: Please stop flooding now, just observe the game. We invite high dans and game-kibitzers to the cloned games by "BigEvent" at the top of English Game room and Active games tabs. Zeid [2d\]: 17-06-2007 coult he be not tartrate????'' Kscnoko123 [1k\]: double keima??? YusufS [4k\]: is the d7 stone to close to thickness? Benja [15k\]: I think White has the advantage LTL92 [2k\]: they gave tartrate his account back Javaness [-\]: R3 seems a must dinnertime [4k\]: dont no yusuf fireman [14k\]: we just are so exited ericosman [1k\]: attention will now turn to the p16 area Zeid [2d\]: w wants r3 Zweig [1k\]: is w the real tartrate???? topfar [1d\]: B made a bad move so early ikami [1k\]: q11 is huge Dusty [19k\]: it looks like some of you are more focused on the chatting then the game itself teamochi [11k\]: indeed Koyoko [2k\]: h4? Nitrogens [7k\]: how high is tartrate teamochi [11k\]: very Nitrogens [7k\]: is he a 9d?? kitty4katt [7k\]: pro lebel Avesarius [1k\]: somehow i rather black here kitty4katt [7k\]: *level ericosman [1k\]: q11 might be premature while p16 still open kitty4katt [7k\]: he has beaten a 6d pro KintaroOe [10k\]: please just stop. let me enjoy the game. battousai1: good,didn't miss too much Javaness [-\]: interesting that white has no komi InExtremis [-\]: dusty, this is more about the "event" than the actual game YusufS [4k\]: how stable is the double oogeima formation? Uberdude [3d?\]: 3-3 lives royu [5d\]: b needs to be wary of a capping move here - like j4 pulp [1d\]: no komi ? oO LTL92 [2k\]: http://www.wikipedia.org/tartrate <----- for the people not knowign who he is YagamiKun [8k\]: w has no komi? Cutz [2k\]: tart is rumored to be a 7d pro Avesarius [1k\]: unstable:) Zeid [2d\]: =O Tarka [9k\]: i always thought two ogoeimas from hoshi either side invited an easy invasion at samsam limestruck [1k?\]: NO KOMI? Benja [15k\]: is tartrate sai? Zweig [1k\]: im so exited!!!$ Zeid [2d\]: is he really tartrate o.o???????????? ericosman [1k\]: says file not found emacs [3k\]: Zeid, yes Uberdude [3d?\]: this is bad corner shape normally Zeid [2d\]: because he registrat just last year 17-06-2007 cce335d [5k\]: who is tartrate ? Sampi [3k\]: A tartrate is a salt or ester of the organic compound tartaric acid, a dicarboxylic acid. Its formula is O−OC-CH(OH)-CH(OH)-COO− or C4H4O6. Avesarius [1k\]: Benja, yes Avesarius [1k\]: :) monboubou [2k?\]: stop flood InExtremis [-\]: p3 would put no pressure on L3, though YusufS [4k\]: ok 3-3 lives but what is is the best direction for white to block is black r3? bobkun [1k\]: dont fllod in this game.. is like see a move and dont eat popcorn.. YusufS [4k\]: would white respond r4 or q3 and why? Zweig [1k\]: lol sampi what a useless comment royu [5d\]: b is weighing whether w j4 type move vs. b tenuki r11 area - which has more worth ericosman [1k\]: http://www.wikipedia.org/tartrate iis wrong says file not found mumei [6k\]: Q10 possibility? Serror [7k\]: w wins on time? Mjolner [5k\]: http://senseis.xmp.net/?Tartrate kitty4katt [7k\]: b looks ahead atm cmj: is tartrate confirmed ? Koyoko [2k\]: i produced a tartrate/tartaric buffer once DonValley [1k?\]: b is too weak for r3, so w played it AlisterM: Sensei library: See Tartrate vs Gentlerain. According to some reliable sources, Tartrate has agreed to play Gentlerain in an even, unranked game on March 5, 2008 3:30 PM PST Kord [-\]: the right wikipedia url is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tartrate Koyoko [2k\]: for a science project FionaSidhe [1d\]: Stop the flooding & links Kord [-\]: ok, sorry Zweig [1k\]: here nobody want to be kick i think :) LTL92 [2k\]: they should've added more time to a match of this calibar. this may end in a timed win battousai1: dang...not a single move in 5 minutes... battousai1: lol:P YusufS [4k\]: Is the botto, group killable without j4? it seems quite safe tom me? Koyoko [2k\]: does jang bi take so long to think, because fuseki isn't his strength? Koyoko [2k\]: i've heard that before imanoob [3k?\]: Well, difference between safe and weak can be huge nimool: h13 DonValley [1k?\]: strong player tend to be slow u know aspar [8k\]: war hier juhu gust [-\]: w slow open beorn [9k\]: Please LIsten To admins... make the game more enjoyable for everyone YusufS [4k\]: yeah, I guess he can work to fight with j4, but not without Dusty [19k\]: k3! gust [-\]: I like b battousai1: just be silent and let them play Tarka [9k\]: yeah, its not a video game. you're *supposed* to think between moves Midorya [2d\]: where is mr. nublett? LTL92 [2k\]: i think gentlerain just realized he might've bitten off more than he can chew :) tartrate [?\]: ... blacklabel [1k\]: w slow open cuz he has it all read out ^^ Zeid [2d\]: d7 not doing much imanoob [3k?\]: strong players play moves that only look slow, but are big GOfan [3d\]: plz ban if ppl flood teamochi [11k\]: Tartrate has spoken tiger [6d?\]: they have a lot to think about most people are unaware of mumei [6k\]: seems like this game could be a big fighting game, white has to pull off at least 1 decent invasion i'd say lurrch1313 [2k\]: b wants rematch with 3 stones right about now matjet2 [7k?\]: should black respond on the upper right side, move under the n3 stone or jump l3 up towards the center.. Vestigial [1k\]: well done dusty ericosman [1k\]: shuld black make a move in lower left that threatens to save the 2 dead stones ? or should b play elsewhere ? LTL92 [2k\]: well gentle may be lagging LTL92 [2k\]: there is over 600 people watching Nitrogens [7k\]: he is not tartrate BSaito [14k?\]: true I945 [3d\]: l5 for protect and allow possible invasion of q4 mud [?\]: what was n3 such an urgent spot? seems like top or right would be bigger Nitrogens [7k\]: even i can beat him Koyoko [2k\]: definitely nothing in the lower left right now mumei [6k\]: i 2nd mud's question Kosai [1k\]: because n3 does many things at once. or, at least two :) barkar [?\]: sorry iam not so good at go, who is winning as of now? any expert (4d+) opinion?? hjuhju: r4 topfar [1d\]: gentlerain is not a pro but unknownplr is a pro. lemuria [1k\]: strong dans feeling like commenting the game are invited to cloned game (by BigEvent) YusufS [4k\]: how does one calculate the relative benefits of a move around r11 vs the j4 move? FionaSidhe [1d\]: Nitrogens last warning Kord [-\]: unknownplr is not a pro, topfar mint [?\]: bottom right is classic bad-butterfly shape ] ;B[pi]BL[1294.448]C[GameFAQs [3d\]: Crazy. godude [7k\]: Abersia Kord [-\]: he is bao yun, a well known super strong amateur LTL92 [2k\]: i'm a pro from 11 pm - 5 am (that's when i dream in my sleep) mint [?\]: (but playable for pros) bobkun [1k\]: 600 people watching dont lie... he tartrate...:) mumei [6k\]: damn i had Q10 i was close GameFAQs [3d\]: Tartrate is just randomly back like this? ericosman [1k\]: p16 ripe ThisIsATes: Shhh!!!!!!!! ] ;W[od]WL[1667.576]C[mach1 [-\]: Please keep comments to the game only YagamiKun [8k\]: wath the language mumei DonValley [1k?\]: q17 nanaroz [9k\]: so fast ] ;B[pc]BL[1287.737]C[fallen [5k\]: normal joseki now? Kord [-\]: mmmh, white plays very fast ericosman [1k\]: why q17 instead of p17 ? DonValley [1k?\]: p13 pulp [1d\]: tartrate plays fast Prodigious [3d\]: More pressure on white this way mint [?\]: Q17 and P17, both are possible battousai1: white's using blacks thinking time to think Nitrogens [7k\]: if B plays 3-3 on the lower right...how many pt would that be ericosman [1k\]: maybe p17 would be answer4ed by white q16 ? ThisIsATes: it would not live YusufS [4k\]: black is strengthening himself for a fight? ] ;W[og]WL[1630.275]C[shinigami [1d\]: from my knowledge, W always plays fast mint [?\]: Q17 is the by-the-textbook way of handling Kirby [2k\]: why doesn't an admin switch to "moderated chat mode"? Midorya [2d\]: w always wins fallen [5k\]: r13? mint [?\]: P17 has been played professionally as well Javaness [-\]: well I didn't expect that move Kord [-\]: r13 will be cut ericosman [1k\]: is e17 for black a good move ? mach1 [-\]: if you want a moderated chat one go to the big event clone Zirconium [13k\]: Kirby, that version is running in the english room right now. Hylebos [5k\]: You can only do that in demos Kirby. ericosman [1k\]: or too mealy mouthed ? beorn [9k\]: they diid in big event comboy [?\]: tartrate was always playing blitz games as far as I remember teamochi [11k\]: can someone xplain that move to me? YagamiKun [8k\]: r13? Koyoko [2k\]: this is the kind of move that is hard to play against mud [?\]: ericosman: seems not very interesting move Koyoko [2k\]: at least for me YusufS [4k\]: r13? is r13 a good move in this case? gtgrouch [6k\]: where is the event clone? flooding is distraction Nitrogens [7k\]: can the dans pls comment on the games glue [-\]: Kirby, the moderate mode is on the clone by BigEvent, feel free to join it at the top of active games tab Kord [-\]: assuming 2x30min a a blitz game, yes GameFAQs [3d\]: I'll do my best, buddies. ericosman [1k\]: p13 makes shape for white and pressures q11 into a low position GameFAQs [3d\]: Ask questions, or I'm lost. mike2096 [7k\]: chemboy613 also clone Kirby [2k\]: i have no problem with the comments, but i thought the admins kept telling people to be quiet BlackOmen1 [5d\]: hmmm BlackOmen1 [5d\]: this move LTL92 [2k\]: chemboy also 6k blackman [3k\]: i think w just gave some handy to w Koyoko [2k\]: lol this is a prime factor ericosman [1k\]: should black answer at o11 or r13 ? ] ;B[of]BL[1193.86]C[bkhl [7k\]: Kirby, to keep on topic. Quite a different thing... BlackOmen1 [5d\]: i cant really relate well to this move blackman [3k\]: i mean w to b bucko [-\]: tartrate?!?!?! ericosman [1k\]: zowie Dratinice [3d\]: whoa Javaness [-\]: interesting attachment Koyoko [2k\]: cool Serror [7k\]: teamoxhi the best who can explain istatrate kendo [3d\]: hm YagamiKun [8k\]: wow fallen [5k\]: looks dangerous mint [?\]: not a good move i think ericosman [1k\]: i wouldn't have thought of that Music86 [17k\]: can all obsevers please be quiet and we get to or three high dans to discuss and comment the game please ? Nitrogens [7k\]: W is falling apart here ericosman [1k\]: but now i will ! DonValley [1k?\]: holy cow kitty4katt [7k\]: wow Javaness [-\]: I expected tobi teamochi [11k\]: Serror: very true mexican5d [3d\]: very strong move kitty4katt [7k\]: O_o Kirby [2k\]: ok, whatever. you can do that with moderated chat mode, though Shenron [1d\]: he choses to fight with tartrate!? BSaito [14k?\]: interesting, at least battousai1: a well played tsuke.. findaway [?\]: they try to complicate this battle :-D Fagerholm [2d\]: Music86: there's moderated high dan discussion at the demo room Zeid [2d\]: now going to fight otariana [8k\]: what's the level of tartrate Fagerholm [2d\]: *game kitty4katt [7k\]: pro GameFAQs [3d\]: Legend. GameFAQs [3d\]: >_> ] ;W[ph]WL[1575.984]C[Nitrogens [7k\]: q14 battousai1: two tsuke's.... Music86 [17k\]: ok thank you fagerholm :) lovelove [4d\]: when he had his rank he was tartrate [God\] battousai1: which one ipol: tartrate is 11p :) battousai1: is stronger Battousai7 [17k?\]: what is the p for teamochi [11k\]: tartrae most likrly LTL92 [2k\]: why not moderate chat the real board also? Kord [-\]: p for pro teamochi [11k\]: PRofessional emacs [3k\]: Battousai, pro BLikeVodka: where's tartrate? ] ;B[oi]BL[1151.15]C[InExtremis [-\]: LTL92 go to the moderated room KintaroOe [10k\]: just go to the clone. MUCH BETTER Tarka [9k\]: Any admin: will the dan-discussed game be recorded and available after the match too? I want to stay here, but i'd like to read the dan review afterwards too... Serror [7k\]: he give corner and looks for the right sude XXXG01D1 [4k?\]: i thought tartrate was 7d LTL92 [2k\]: tartrate is an amateur like Jie Li, but like Jie he can defeat very strong players AWA [5k\]: Wow 29 moves into that game and already I feel stupid virazen [23k\]: how strong is black Azurin [2d\]: black is 9d otariana [8k\]: 9d mint [?\]: now W can consider O14 or Q14, both seem plausible. Music86 [17k\]: Im very new here im sorry where can i find this "Demo room" battousai1: they both play equal by the looks so they both have to be 9d Javaness [-\]: look in the EGR for the account BigEvent Warp [-\]: No komi? Tartrate must be pretty confident. ericosman [1k\]: i'm sorry, I have to go. I'll look at the game in the past later. isshoni [5k\]: by the way, thanks for the filtered clone BigEvents Kosai [1k\]: Q14, because O14 leaves a large cut? mexican5d [3d\]: around m16 next? Kosai [1k\]: also, I think Q14 sets up a W ladder towards E6. Dusty [19k\]: o13 lurrch1313 [2k\]: its no komi battousai fallen [5k\]: komi is .5 like it was against Charm Nitrogens [7k\]: so gentalrain took his GRE?? tildebis [4d?\]: hmm ... looks like B leads ... topfar [1d\]: tartrate is no rank in KGS Music86 [17k\]: thanks sir lovelove [4d\]: too bad to see no high dans are commenting teamochi [11k\]: GRE? Nitrogens [7k\]: 4d is pretty high arara [2k\]: even if high dans comment Kosai [1k\]: lovelove: they're commenting in the cloned room arara [2k\]: we can't see in this flood Dusty [19k\]: o13 ftw Zeid [2d\]: 4d not so strong Mu [7k\]: dans commenting in the other game NoKnott [-\]: Nitrogtens, please keep comments to this game battousai1: next move'll be an attempt to add strength to white's offense Serror [7k\]: lovelove do it with love Mu [7k\]: "bigevent" Nitrogens [7k\]: i did RobertT [9k?\]: there all in clones commenting mike2096 [7k\]: r13 ! CSP [11k\]: HOLY SHIT Nitrogens [7k\]: there is so many other random comments than mine LTL92 [2k\]: just letting everyone know this.to have the game without the comments, go to http:usgo.org, click "click here for more" on the latest article and there will be a link to print out a score sheet to write the moves for the games down on ] ;W[pf]WL[1461.138]C[battousai1: r-10 seems ok,but that might be too weak.. mach1 [-\]: CSP watch the language Azurin [2d\]: 695 observers? ] ;B[pe]BL[1142.825]C[ArcLite [4k\]: umm i have a silly question, how do we know this is really tartrate and not someone else registered on that name after account gets inactivated? battousai1: deactivated Magnusjen [13k\]: look at his style Nitrogens [7k\]: this is guest account battousai1: lol BAZI [11k\]: we'll know when he wins :p fallen [5k\]: it is confirmed ] ;W[nf]WL[1442.761]C[Kosai [1k\]: ArcLite: If he wins, then we know it's probably him :) ] ;B[oe]BL[1140.949]C[Nitrogens [7k\]: oh what happen to hyang?? tildebis [4d?\]: more than 1100 observers if one takes into account the other room ] ;W[ng]WL[1425.993]C[LugPaj [2d\]: since when is tartrate back? Pinguschaf [-\]: who put the game on the top ? Nitrogens [7k\]: i thought he was v strong lemmming [11k\]: divinity probably frowned upon in a game of skill nimool: o12 was better Pinguschaf [-\]: maybe that admin knows something about tartrates identity battousai1: 702 ob GameFAQs [3d\]: The other room is overlap. GrandYan [-\]: tildebis, there are common observers. Bruno [1k\]: where is will zhang ? deft [4d\]: somehow W managed to attack P11 stones BlackOmen1 [5d\]: hmm DeepTuna [3k\]: W to make chunk with O12? tildebis [4d?\]: yes it is a max Aguydude [6k\]: Anyone can make filtered clone... Repos [4k\]: q14 is bad for w kaxtar1 [13k\]: even me? Javaness [-\]: I still want to play R3 topfar [1d\]: B has two weak groups now. deft [4d\]: after W P13 maybe B could have simply jumped? kcorsair [2k\]: oh tartrate is back riccimer [8k\]: auch da juchhe Javaness [-\]: O15 feels very big goprodigy [3d\]: invasion worked Serror [7k\]: arround p8? battousai1: if I were here,I'd probably play L 15 F4te [3d\]: O15 seems big but not..urgent? glue [-\]: Aguydude: there is a filtered clone, see BigEvent game at the top of active games tab deft [4d\]: O15 is very big, but you'll pay the price on the other side otariana [8k\]: from where is hi otariana [8k\]: he Bruno [1k\]: d 7 very weak Koyoko [2k\]: n16? skamus [1k\]: I would play r8 or q7 wossname [1d\]: d7 isnt a group Repos [4k\]: p7 for b otariana [8k\]: from which country ? Kosai [1k\]: n11 DonValley [1k?\]: tartrate broke the record for most observers! ] ;B[ne]BL[993.623]C[MetallicaX [3d\]: yes d7 single stone F4te [3d\]: o dang ] ;W[mi]WL[1419.186]C[F4te [3d\]: risky ] ;B[qi]BL[990.916]C[GameFAQs [3d\]: Fate! ikami [1k\]: hi Master Sentinel deft [4d\]: I would still play O15 -- much easier for B when he has already taken profit Nightwind [4k\]: b will suffer F4te [3d\]: hahah hello gamey sigapa [-\]: hey ! no way the legend is back ?! F4te [3d\]: seems we both made it to 3d eh? skamus [1k\]: those 2 moves where fast :) HotLobster [11k\]: is he? Javaness [-\]: black seems to force life Vash3G [?\]: don: according to my intel this isnt the most observers judgement [?\]: doesnt seem to impress me that much F4te [3d\]: i feel like b is really takin a huge risk here demotu [13k\]: Just wondering, is the game even right now, or is someone ahead? DonValley [1k?\]: o :( Onseki: yay 731 observer judgement [?\]: gentles play is fluent and precise LTL92 [2k\]: 735 FionaSidhe [1d\]: Keep discussion on topic please F4te [3d\]: demotu, hard to say battousai1: black has more territory... ArcLite [4k\]: demotu i think it depends on how this group settles nimool: s13 ] ;W[rh]WL[1372.288]C[GameFAQs [3d\]: I can't see enough to determine, demotu. tildebis [4d?\]: I still prefer B here deft [4d\]: I was expecting B to play more light after taking so much points battousai1: but white can break it apart Kosai [1k\]: B has more territory, but more weak groups. deft [4d\]: R11 is kind of heavy move DonValley [1k?\]: b is ahead on secure territory i suppose judgement [?\]: black was former korean insei he wouldnt do something dumb Tarka [9k\]: sc ore estimate B+36.5... but what the hell does score est know about it ;-) F4te [3d\]: b top left is still very invadable MetallicaX [3d\]: wow teamochi [11k\]: in a game with tartrate, the game has only to do with mental strength arara [2k\]: game stills looks even KenLP [8k\]: is tartrate , real tartrate? ForDreaM [18k\]: yu[ Zureiyaa [-\]: seems so ForDreaM [18k\]: yup* tiger [6d?\]: not possible to determine the score right now skamus [1k\]: so how does q11 live? :) unmei [-\]: r13 maybe? oOOo [4d\]: how you know its him? Zureiyaa [-\]: q11 dead :) Altist [2k\]: p8 arara [2k\]: really... skamus [1k\]: or dies as a sacrifice? Darkover [?\]:  http://www.usgo.org/ Kita [4k\]: haha people are going to ask if it's tartrate the entire game nimool: n12 Nightwind [4k\]: Q8 or something? NickSib [2d\]: n10? mike2096 [7k\]: p8 battousai1: enough with the links and off topic chatter deft [4d\]: hi tiger Hu [4k?\]: By have more than 737 observers, this is now the second most observed game on KGS, third most observed event. F4te [3d\]: every new person that comes in is gonna be like TARTRATE! czajan [2d\]: r4? mike2096 [7k\]: o9 kaxtar1 [13k\]: who's tartrate a big pro or something? F4te [3d\]: and then some admin will have to keep convo on topic again F4te [3d\]: lol battousai1: it's a game of go so focus on the game! ww [3k\]: N10 ? LTL92 [2k\]: whats the record? tiger [6d?\]: hi deft ^^ Javaness [-\]: *cough* skamus [1k\]: tartrate is KGS's Sai e4x3 [3k?\]: yep Kira4444 [24k\]: wow gentlerains'territory wsa so high and now its nearly all gone! lurrch1313 [2k\]: gesunteit javaness zen [2k\]: maybe you should add the numbers of the clone too, hu context [7k\]: "sai" like best player or what? Serror [7k\]: r4? dont believe sigapa [-\]: tartrate would kick sai's ... Azurin [2d\]: where's bigdoug when you need him? battousai1: it's a manga character fallen [5k\]: tartrate only lost to Charm..and he lost 4 of 11 in a simul skamus [1k\]: sai like misterious superstrng Sponge7 [2d\]: tartrate is hogake level!!!11111111 F4te [3d\]: it's hard for b to settle here without hurting L3 takemeba [7d\]: is this read tartrate kaxtar1 [13k\]: so in other words he's amazing Shenron [1d\]: please respect the players! no silly comment sweety [-\]: Let's keep the comments about the game. demotu [13k\]: Can they see all this chatter since it's a free game? deft [4d\]: hard for B to move out without losing R3 aji F4te [3d\]: no demotu takemeba [7d\]: real Dennis345 [8k\]: no GameFAQs [3d\]: No. ] ;B[ri]BL[856.723]C[mexican5d [3d\]: PLEASE stop talking about anime, just talk about the game F4te [3d\]: only teaching games F4te [3d\]: u can see what people are saying DeepTuna [3k\]: Demotu, if they could the game would be over imanoob [3k?\]: black wins at gomoku ww [3k\]: game is ranked anyway GameFAQs [3d\]: >_> virazen [23k\]: this is GO+=)=9d Bruno [1k\]: that line is a stab demotu [13k\]: Why on earth would it be over? InExtremis [-\]: gentlerain's march to the sea Serror [7k\]: hmmm closed Kscnoko123 [1k\]: s11 is kikashi and an obvious move Warp [-\]: Why do you even bother asking people to stop off-topic chatter? They won't stop no matter what you say. glue [-\]: for game talk (moderated chat), join the clone by BigEvent at the top of active games tab kaxtar1 [13k\]: doesn't that increase w wall KenLP [8k\]: deep reading. Namii [5d\]: I laugh at all the people who think they can bring this under control. Namii [5d\]: This will be great troll material Sponge7 [2d\]: lol Serror [7k\]: remember from form at titanic from heaven teamochi [11k\]: this game will make flood history virazen [23k\]: =) InExtremis [-\]: just r12 enough? nimool: s9 LugPaj [2d\]: i dont like s11 ] ;W[lf]WL[1295.389]C[MetallicaX [3d\]: so the size of this sgf will be about 2 gigs :P FionaSidhe [1d\]: That's enough. Stop the off-topic. ww [3k\]: M14!!!!!!! :) Greenfuse [1k\]: omg is this really tartrate? DanEl [3k\]: ^^ igosensei [4d\]: who knows... tiger [6d?\]: b n9 could be stylish ^^ ] ;B[om]BL[823.967]C[battousai1: if the black marker beside the comments goes small,we broke a record virazen [23k\]: GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! battousai1: lol Shenron [1d\]: omg they have all been warned just boot them sigapa [-\]: oh my tartrate is this really god ? skamus [1k\]: this must be the real tartrate. Like 5 admins moderating 1 game... that means something arara [2k\]: boot plz DonValley [1k?\]: anyone have a clue of who tartrate is? jie li? KintaroOe [10k\]: wow. virazen.......no lurrch1313 [2k\]: i count 15 admins skamus... Color [5k\]: w corner looks kind of weak to me Sponge7 [2d\]: any pro here to give comments? Color [5k\]: is it just me? Kosai [1k\]: Color: No, not just you, R3 lives. ww [3k\]: does high dans have any thoughts on this progress so far ? GameFAQs [3d\]: Of course it's weak. Nyanjilla [-\]: warning---I've got fed up with kicking the same people repeatedly... from now on I'm booting Kosai [1k\]: Perhaps W will play something like Q7 now marfack [-\]: me too, Nyan Kosai [1k\]: which might make the corner live as well as attacking battousai1: Ididn't do anything so don't boot me please^_^" F4te [3d\]: i was taught not to play N3 Q4 R7 shape celestia [12k\]: sorry nyanjilla :( mike2096 [7k\]: me too ww [3k\]: you seriously need the option to let only chose people to talk F4te [3d\]: but i guess it's situational ww [3k\]: in kgs client :( Xiro: poor admins so busy today Dusty [19k\]: n8 ftw ] ;W[ol]WL[1195.111]C[Dusty [19k\]: ooooo wossname [1d\]: prefer black Color [5k\]: ooo w a fighter atoishu [10k\]: how strong is tatrte again HotLobster [11k\]: 9 dan sigapa [-\]: tartrate can't lose Sponge7 [2d\]: 12d kendo [3d\]: 20d Swilice [1k\]: pro-bably KintaroOe [10k\]: somewhere in pro's e4x3 [3k?\]: better than 9d sai1029 [6k\]: who is tartrate? proGeek [7k\]: 900p sai1029 [6k\]: is he very pro? PsychoCLS [5k\]: hey sai Xiro: i was just kicked for saying poor admins? O.o sooorry lurrch1313 [2k\]: funny you should ask sai... Zureiyaa [-\]: stronger than pro :> Greenfuse [1k\]: tartrate is a kgs legend Kangur [3d\]: No one knows who is tartrate or how strong he is, stop asking.. santiago [-\]: this tartatre isn't 9d takemeba [7d\]: lol what's "very pro" mach1 [-\]: please keep the chat to the game kitty4katt [7k\]: hmmmm sai1029 [6k\]: i only kno about gentle rain? matjet2 [7k?\]: i think the r11 group is in trouble Midorya [2d\]: how do you tell the difference if you're kicked or just lost the connection Sponge7 [2d\]: this will be fun once byo yomi starts marfack [-\]: you were kicked MetallicaX [3d\]: i will never understand m 14 kitty4katt [7k\]: hmmmm this looks like a fight Azurin [2d\]: Midorya, you probably lost connection. sigapa [-\]: hey come on admins, this is tartrate's come back ! Warp [-\]: Someone should count how many people ask if this is the real tartrate or who tartrate is. e4x3 [3k?\]: every games a fight sai1029 [6k\]: lol i was kiked earlier -.- Ithmatic [3k\]: is this the most observers in a game? kotarosama [19k\]: so what is blacks best next move? MetallicaX [3d\]: no Chilltime [20k\]: tartrate seems t have the better time Ithmatic [3k\]: whats the record? Kord [-\]: gentlerain will have some problems, if he spend too much time like this Bruno [1k\]: is o 13 a good shape? Chilltime [20k\]: this will be important MetallicaX [3d\]: over 1000 the other day Prinny [1k\]: no one cares, pay attention to the game Ithmatic [3k\]: whaaa, who's game was that Kord [-\]: against Pete Liu he did the same ] ;B[mj]BL[680.965]C[MetallicaX [3d\]: for peteliu and gentlerain Ithmatic [3k\]: ah kendo [3d\]: interesting XperiMenT [1k?\]: isnt that just weird? takemeba [7d\]: yo .. what's the purpose of the other cloned game ? Kosai [1k\]: perhaps Q7 now? kotarosama [19k\]: does that cut off w's p8 stone pretty much? Kord [-\]: ... Kosai [1k\]: takemeba: it's for moderated dan comments Bruno [1k\]: chat, ask glue [-\]: for game talk (moderated chat), join the clone by BigEvent at the top of active games tab Bruno [1k\]: then jtn [6k\]: http://senseis.xmp.net/?Tartrate InExtremis [-\]: takemeba feel free to comment here anyway :) Color [5k\]: r 11 looks like its dying lepore [2d\]: takemeba - please provide your take on the game Kosai [1k\]: r11 can live with R12 Kosai [1k\]: so not as bad as it looks Menim [3k\]: can this be really tartrate? BLikeVodka: those admins are flooding, they keep writing about this clone game Kord [-\]: r11 is still very alive, to me BLikeVodka: ban them GameFAQs [3d\]: Takemeba: Please get yourself a sandwich and relax. GameFAQs [3d\]: ^_~ Javaness [-\]: I feel white will M10 InExtremis [-\]: I think 3d players should try to predict the next move Sponge7 [2d\]: 3d players are too weak aussiemate [7k\]: aree you a high dan, Javas? ] ;W[lj]WL[1062.02]C[Javaness [-\]: just low InExtremis [-\]: oh I like m10 ] ;B[nl]BL[677.728]C[Tarka [9k\]: hey hey hey javaness was right InExtremis [-\]: nice, java :) Sponge7 [2d\]: javaness is a kyus player ^_^ YagamiKun [8k\]: nice one Javaness Koyoko [2k\]: ok crazy aussiemate [7k\]: Tartrate would like high dans to comment on the game Toge [6k\]: Is this the real Tartrate, I thought his account name got taken Capsule [3d\]: after this game I'm afraid the rapture will occur and everyone in this room will be sent to the underworld. Kosai [1k\]: wow, these moves make me grin DeepTuna [3k\]: M10, hane extraordinaire =) ] ;W[pl]WL[1026.388]C[glue [-\]: some high dans do comment on the clone lepore [2d\]: Capsule is back - nice to see you ikami [1k\]: who is the real tartrate ? Kirby [2k\]: i feel like b is doing better aussiemate [7k\]: me gowhahat [10k\]: your father Capsule [3d\]: hey lepore Bheeshma [7k\]: wow!!! tartrate!!! ] ;B[nj]BL[656.393]C[wossname [1d\]: capsule could not withstand the shakes ] ;W[lk]WL[1018.689] ;B[nm]BL[650.593]C[Capsule [3d\]: :( ] ;W[qp]WL[1007.855]C[nimool: n7 was better DeepTuna [3k\]: Black's taking the heat now The3d [3d\]: B seems weak now MetallicaX [3d\]: wow fat MetallicaX [3d\]: fast MetallicaX [3d\]: :P Tarka [9k\]: ha sam sam priotected now Murugandi [3d\]: fat n fast VVeak [1d\]: i came now...can anybody tell me if thiis is the old legendthat tartrate????? The3d [3d\]: gentle used a lot of tim Bheeshma [7k\]: its tartrate afterall!.. he has to take his time:D Capsule [3d\]: i see spelling has gone down the drain these recent years Doublewing [9k\]: r4 seems perfect timed Azurin [2d\]: black is running but where is he going? Javaness [-\]: time to count territory MetallicaX [3d\]: they kicked me for mispelling fast... takemeba [7d\]: LOL tzpo [9k\]: capsule: wha is speling? madara12 [1k\]: lol mike2096 [7k\]: o5 ? Javaness [-\]: I think white 45 points Javaness [-\]: how many for black? topfar [1d\]: Is W leading? outstander [5k\]: who is tartrate? takemeba [7d\]: w is aggresive... i like w mike2096 [7k\]: 39 outstander [5k\]: isn't he famous or something? Midorya [2d\]: b is about to get pwned Kirby [2k\]: hard for me to count black because there's a lot that can be reduce/invaded Capsule [3d\]: no, he's not. VVeak [1d\]: ??? wry [3d\]: more than famous The3d [3d\]: legend Bheeshma [7k\]: tartrate is an invincible kgs legand heegaard [6k\]: search tartrate on senseis outstander [5k\]: why? Bheeshma [7k\]: legend* outstander [5k\]: oh mike2096 [7k\]: o5 \\ Nyanjilla [-\]: keep the comments focused on this game, if at all Evisi [4k\]: i believe black has some problems now. white will probably attack the upper side next Kazuma [-\]: OMG IS THIS THE REAL TARTRATE? ww [3k\]: is there an option in the client to put people in ignore through some criteria like users rank , or is it only one by one ? Doublewing [9k\]: something like g17 playable ? aussiemate [7k\]: Tartrate has prepared something with m14 Doublewing [9k\]: for b now takemeba [7d\]: N4 ? nimool: s9 ganbatte [25k?\]: omg tartrat sabetts [5k\]: ww: that would be very handy Sponge7 [2d\]: ranks are meaningless ForDreaM [18k\]: I wish the game had ForDreaM [18k\]: far more time BuckCentre [5k\]: An 8d in the clone room said black lives easily though. Evisi [4k\]: i think g 17 is too early yet ganbatte [25k?\]: th real tartrate ] ;B[qn]BL[476.464]C[skamus [1k\]: it has good time settings, at least its not 10seconds per move :P ] ;W[rn]WL[1001.986]C[mike2096 [7k\]: q7 Javaness [-\]: it's not about just living here nimool: s8 mike2096 [7k\]: q7 r8 p5 nanaroz [9k\]: but time is already becoming an issue no? ] ;B[mp]BL[451.632]C[takemeba [7d\]: n4 is right YagamiKun [8k\]: it's always an issue murai [1k\]: was R5 better than R4 ? DeepTuna [3k\]: White can be happy with creeping out at M10, I believe InExtremis [-\]: less aji with r4 murai [1k\]: ok ] ;W[nq]WL[961.702]C[mike2096 [7k\]: u sound liek a evil clown mike2096 [7k\]: omg mike2096 [7k\]: p4 takemeba [7d\]: tenuki Sponge7 [2d\]: D5!!! takemeba [7d\]: d5 ? ] ;B[lp]BL[415.752]C[kendo [3d\]: 777 KintaroOe [10k\]: what would that do? ] ;W[ci]WL[959.108]C[takemeba [7d\]: gets laddered wry [3d\]: jackpot The3d [3d\]: wow, W took no time at all The3d [3d\]: for that move terrorist [7k\]: I would hate to be white Javaness [-\]: I always find these high level invasions unthinkable DeepTuna [3k\]: C11 looks great Tiesto [2d\]: invasion? Midorya [2d\]: i'd love to be white ForDreaM [18k\]: C-6? wry [3d\]: c11 very nice takemeba [7d\]: d10 highhand [5k\]: wow 775 people observing my comment :) ForDreaM [18k\]: C-9**? Bheeshma [7k\]: id love to be white! Tiesto [2d\]: this is hardly an invasion Javaness [-\]: black is ahead in territory still i think Kazuma [-\]: please don't ban me, is this really tartrate for sure? dont kick me :( Nickless [-\]: no komi in this game Kirby [2k\]: i think b is ahead right now, too Javaness [-\]: it is the real tartrate Capsule [3d\]: bye Kazuma Sponge7 [2d\]: ninja battle! Kazuma [-\]: wow wry [3d\]: hard for b to reduce this without losing a lot around AWA [5k\]: d6 takemeba [7d\]: w is doing fine VVeak [1d\]: is he pro? oOOo [4d\]: how you know javaness? topfar [1d\]: W is leading! tzpo [9k\]: cgoban score est. says W+6.5 tzpo [9k\]: tartrate rules F4te [3d\]: i like w a lot more right now Chilltime [20k\]: white has good influence riccimer [8k\]: a guate ] ;B[jf]BL[303.057]C[takemeba [7d\]: hehehe manestor [12k\]: ! GrandYan [-\]: Because of his position or because of his name, F4te? bongo [2k\]: is this tartrate real? mooi [3d\]: no komi? F4te [3d\]: position F4te [3d\]: =P KintaroOe [10k\]: G17? topfar [1d\]: W D17? DeepTuna [3k\]: oh dear GrandYan [-\]: Riiight :P Nickless [-\]: no its a wax tartrate heegaard [6k\]: no, it's a 10d bot KenLP [8k\]: looks like tartrate is waiting too much to atack the top Nightwind [4k\]: that move seems very good, it reduces w's influence and makes points svgo [4k\]: it's thecutpain DeepTuna [3k\]: It looks like an invasion is almost necessary now Melty [6k\]: real tartrate should go at g17 Swilice [1k\]: take it's seems your prediction got less accurate sicne last time :P Violence [?\]: 779 observers... The3d [3d\]: d17? Kirby [2k\]: c17 Adamantium [5d?\]: plus 500 on the clone Javaness [-\]: it is a nice game so far takemeba [7d\]: hehehe ArcLite [4k\]: does b want f17? Zureiyaa [-\]: d18 imanoob [3k?\]: surely upper left is still open ArcLite [4k\]: to attack it>? Capsule [3d\]: only 8221 more observers until we hit Vegeta's power level takemeba [7d\]: he wants to cut GrandYan [-\]: Majority of those 500 are probably here as well Senki [1k\]: i think it is backup for m11 Japsu [20k?\]: not really "plus 500", some are watching both Japsu [20k?\]: yeah ArcLite [4k\]: cut where takemba ArcLite [4k\]: ? Kirby [2k\]: probably kut k14 Pepin [4k?\]: d17 maybe be, but black M11 would be painful murai [1k\]: M11 highhand [5k\]: w f13 Swilice [1k\]: m11 i guess ? The3d [3d\]: m11 heegaard [6k\]: what's the rank of gentlerain in real life? ArcLite [4k\]: i see ty The3d [3d\]: 9d Violence [?\]: AGA 8-9d Pepin [4k?\]: L12 locally heegaard [6k\]: (not that kgs is not real life...) ideahead [3d\]: aga 10d ArcLite [4k\]: gentlerain is ranked 17 in korea for amateurs i think? ] ;W[ld]WL[848.332]C[The3d [3d\]: O.O Zweig [1k\]: this is strange than everybody here are not in clone game.. Capsule [3d\]: not AGA 8d, strong AGA 9d. and gentlerain was ranked #14. vicius85 [1k\]: Torney? silver2k4 [5d?\]: wwwho?? Midorya [2d\]: this is indeed great move ideahead [3d\]: capsule = go datahead The3d [3d\]: where do u c that he was 14 in korea amas? ] ;B[kd]BL[267.401]C[Capsule [3d\]: source: gentlerain Melty [6k\]: is this fake tartrate or real tartrate? Midorya [2d\]: fake DeepTuna [3k\]: W making an invasion harder now? svgo [4k\]: it's low-fat tartrate Altist [2k\]: c17? Zureiyaa [-\]: lol topfar [1d\]: D17? ganbatte [25k?\]: FAKE TARTRATE ??? ganbatte [25k?\]: not real ? KintaroOe [10k\]: no now be quiet kendo [3d\]: watch the game takemeba [7d\]: k11 ? Warp [-\]: It's the real mccoy skamus [1k\]: if we dont even know who is the real, how can we know who is fake if the game hasn't ended? Battousai7 [17k?\]: wow. i am getting tired of that question.LOL Koyoko [2k\]: h14? ] ;W[jg]WL[768.427]C[tzpo [9k\]: what would hikaru do? mach1 [-\]: this is not the place to discuss anything but the moves being played in the game JosephGaz [?\]: sleeping canoman [11k\]: he would ask sai ] ;B[ig]BL[241.631]C[Zureiyaa [-\]: sai would ask tartrate :> Kirby [2k\]: that's why this should also be moderated, mach1. Zureiyaa [-\]: i think white must invade soon Music86 [17k\]: why should a fake player pose to be tartrate? i dont think anyone at this level would be soo pathetic that they pose to be some "legendary player" ] ;W[kg]WL[759.371]C[YagamiKun [8k\]: enough Javaness [-\]: white is patient igosensei [4d\]: censure talking please igosensei [4d\]: here is just to watch :) The3d [3d\]: waitinf to strike at d17? nimool: j8 Kazuma [-\]: mach1 - you are correct but you must agree that having comments like ' omg real tartrate ' after few years he hasn't been around is not something that can be helped. must understand us... Zureiyaa [-\]: d18 better, no? Javaness [-\]: E17 now, or nobi? DeepTuna [3k\]: Can B ascend to J12? takemeba [7d\]: j12 nimool: w will lose this game ArcLite [4k\]: so if b play top white play e11? igosensei [4d\]: seems w playing slow.. Melty [6k\]: b go d9? JosephGaz [?\]: black also Kirby [2k\]: i still favor b's position m3rcury [1k\]: b is going to be hurtin for time =/ skamus [1k\]: slow or honte? :) The3d [3d\]: time pressure for rain? Koyoko [2k\]: i think tartrate will add time Music86 [17k\]: is it so hard to belive that he would want to play a game here? i see your point but stop specualting. just enjoy the marvelous game which is been played now and dont waste time on argueing wheter he is real or fake The3d [3d\]: ya JosephGaz [?\]: honte ? Koyoko [2k\]: pete did lst time Altist [2k\]: D17? sweety [-\]: no add time. ] ;B[ei]BL[138.405]C[GameFAQs [3d\]: Doubt it. nimool: f12 or j8 GameFAQs [3d\]: He lost on time to Charm. kendo [3d\]: and in a simul game KintaroOe [10k\]: ouch heegaard [6k\]: Charm is still around? DeepTuna [3k\]: awesome cap YagamiKun [8k\]: he wouldn't add time GameFAQs [3d\]: Must continue vicious cycle. >_> Bruno [1k\]: E 11 m3rcury [1k\]: yeah, don't count on him adding time. that is the condition of the game. barkar [?\]: ArcLite predicted it heegaard [6k\]: never saw him mumei [6k\]: over 1300 observers... can't tell if individuals though Vash3G [?\]: looks like he got better at managing his time The3d [3d\]: it seems tempting for d12 now tho GameFAQs [3d\]: They agreed not to add time? FionaSidhe [1d\]: Keep it the talk related to this game & it's moves please PsychoCLS [5k\]: how would black respond to d12 ? maruseru [-\]: "its" vicius85 [1k\]: b seems fine Javaness [-\]: I like E11, good feeling Nightwind [4k\]: w will invade now i think Bruno [1k\]: c 10 maybe DeepTuna [3k\]: B's got himself a powerhouse moyo nowe Zweig [1k\]: what will happen if tartrate loose? ArcLite [4k\]: is this rushed for b if b comes out in gote? vicius85 [1k\]: is this tourney game?? kaxtar1 [13k\]: d12 w Zureiyaa [-\]: maruseru: i was going to say the same but i didn't think it's a good idea :) ] ;W[cc]WL[660.922]C[KintaroOe [10k\]: d9? ] ;B[dc]BL[132.527]C[Tarka [9k\]: wowwweeeeeee ] ;W[cd]WL[658.424]C[Music86 [17k\]: this is an unranked game Javaness [-\]: white lives in the corner DanEl [3k\]: W D12, then Black D11... don'tg thin that would be good FionaSidhe [1d\]: My proper use of its is NOT proper conversation topic here igosensei [4d\]: no no Javaness [-\]: C14 now? Koyoko [2k\]: that's a bit o territory for b Bheeshma [7k\]: its a rated game imanoob [3k?\]: hmm, what if b tried b14 topazg [3k?\]: Lots of black territory now though surely skamus [1k\]: c18 ? kaxtar1 [13k\]: no its ranked The3d [3d\]: woah igosensei [4d\]: it's ranked game Koyoko [2k\]: c14 looks good java The3d [3d\]: its ranked Music86 [17k\]: it is a ranked game? Zweig [1k\]: before he leave kgs, does tartrate use to play blitz, sometime? Sponge7 [2d\]: RIP maruseru topazg [3k?\]: It's going to be hard to invade E16 - K16 for white isn't it? lloyd [2d?\]: would love to see B at B15 Xynosis [2k\]: wow!!!!!! InExtremis [-\]: hopefully that means he'll come around more often Music86 [17k\]: oh sorry my bad ive heard that it was unranked kaxtar1 [13k\]: look at the rules ] ;B[ce]BL[79.595] ;W[be]WL[655.949] ;B[bf]BL[78.862] ;W[de]WL[654.468]C[GrandYan [-\]: I think that just means none of them really looked at the game settings. :) ] ;B[cf]BL[78.01] ;W[db]WL[653.416] ;B[eb]BL[77.355]C[terrorist [7k\]: One of my proverbs is "Whoever 3-3s first wins! Music86 [17k\]: Tartrate has agreed to play Gentlerain in an even, unranked game on March 5, 2008 3:30 PM PST nimool: d12 Zureiyaa [-\]: b18 ] ;W[cb]WL[638.369]C[Blake [3k\]: wow, turbo go GrandYan [-\]: Some source or the other explicitly mentioned "unranked game" ] ;B[fc]BL[73.799]C[aussiemate [7k\]: SE (which is infallible) says B is leading QuietP [9k\]: is that 33 invasion really good for white? it seems to give b a large territory GrandYan [-\]: Thank you, Music86. Music86 [17k\]: ... ] ;W[bd]WL[634.237] ;B[cj]BL[72.039] ;W[ee]WL[621.549] ;B[fd]BL[69.466]C[DeepTuna [3k\]: C10 - knuckle shot skamus [1k\]: This is a ranked game Koyoko [2k\]: looks really nice for b imanoob [3k?\]: even after invasion, b territory looks big ArcLite [4k\]: desperation? Kirby [2k\]: b looks great Shenron [1d\]: here we go! imanoob [3k?\]: let's hope w can reduce it GOfan [3d\]: who has an advantage here? Music86 [17k\]: found at the senseis page: See Tartrate vs Gentlerain. According to some reliable sources, Tartrate has agreed to play Gentlerain in an even, unranked game on March 5, 2008 3:30 PM PST Zweig [1k\]: g12 InExtremis [-\]: b seems to have an easier game GameFAQs [3d\]: It was his moyo. GameFAQs [3d\]: Deal with it. takemeba [7d\]: f12 Blake [3k\]: gentlerain used C10! It's super-effective! tiger [6d?\]: b does not trust honte silver2k4 [5d?\]: wow the record in observers! (but i still dont know what is going on here anyway...) GameFAQs [3d\]: Gonna be big. Kirby [2k\]: w has to do something fast CBlue [1d?\]: what are wJ14 possibilities? The3d [3d\]: hope it doesnt bcome a time loss topfar [1d\]: d12? kcorsair [2k\]: w wants to kill Javaness [-\]: J14 feels nice to me calmezen [-\]: hi everybody.please what tartrate was so expected in KGS?he is famous in the world of GO? Zweig [1k\]: silver> record is last week 1022 Nightwind [4k\]: j14 seems almost unique LightFlush [1d\]: J12 Koyoko [2k\]: 1028 actually Magnusjen [13k\]: hey am i not your friend? Zweig [1k\]: ya royu [5d\]: maybe e13? celestia [12k\]: tartrate is like a legend o.o koinzell [5k\]: m17 is big for b no? kaxtar1 [13k\]: d6 ] ;W[if]WL[539.244]C[ArcLite [4k\]: this is whites only hope? topazg [3k?\]: This is unreal, can E15 live ?? Music86 [17k\]: feels like im watching hikaru all over again lol Zweig [1k\]: nice 1 jav Magnusjen [13k\]: did he just cross cut Altist [2k\]: E15 is aji heegaard [6k\]: E15 for aji ArcLite [4k\]: i think e15 is used for aji Hu [4k?\]: K15 Magnusjen [13k\]: OH MY GO Javaness [-\]: E15 doesn't have to live nimool: m15 takemeba [7d\]: w doesn't really need to live there.. calmezen [-\]: thx celestia but i read in sensei s link but i don't know nothing about him Javaness [-\]: white just wants to reduce that area Zureiyaa [-\]: white is winning! Altist [2k\]: black ahead here no? moetero [1k\]: *turns kibitz off* topfar [1d\]: I still like w Kirby [2k\]: i think b ahead ennuistic [2k\]: looks like black is ahead. CBlue [1d?\]: really wondering how w plans this now.. ] ;B[hf]BL[15.978]C[YagamiKun [8k\]: b is indeed ahead ] ;W[ie]WL[531.93] ;B[he]BL[14.047]C[BuckCentre [5k\]: White is ahead by time though... I think it's actually going to affect the game. BSaito [14k?\]: but look at the time! topazg [3k?\]: White has two big corners, but it looks like Black should have a lot of the top to me GameFAQs [3d\]: No komi. Tarka [9k\]: tut. it is bad manners to atri white, they say ennuistic [2k\]: yeah. ennuistic [2k\]: i figured as much. Color [5k\]: geez the score estimate shouldnt be used toblock kibitz.... overplay [2k\]: damn i imagine a game capitain vrs tartrate... YagamiKun [8k\]: time might effect the game actually Bheeshma [7k\]: loses sente : ( ennuistic [2k\]: no way gentlerain would take black with komi Color [5k\]: plz only game comments Iam15k [6k\]: Is this the one and only tart? Iam15k [6k\]: the REAL one? Tiesto [2d\]: but l15 is big Nyanjilla [-\]: Keep the comments on this game, please... and intelligent ones too DeepTuna [3k\]: <.< skamus [1k\]: n16 ? Fredda [-\]: B is leading ] ;W[id]WL[496.881]C[Tiesto [2d\]: oh geez ennuistic [2k\]: hmm. fudaya: big fight MetallicaX [3d\]: wow Zureiyaa [-\]: wow.. Kirby [2k\]: what The3d [3d\]: ?? ] ;B[ke]BL[0.483]C[Color [5k\]: thank you nyan Kirby [2k\]: w is too confident YagamiKun [8k\]: it's all thanks to the chinese fuseki Sponge7 [2d\]: you can´t expect intelligent comments after yours Zureiyaa [-\]: misclick? ciatsd [2d\]: wow I945 [3d\]: ?? mooi [3d\]: o.O ennuistic [2k\]: this is not good. skamus [1k\]: w seems dead :( Midorya [2d\]: which comments are considered intelligent? ennuistic [2k\]: what's the plan? overplay [2k\]: w mistake ennuistic [2k\]: i know its not a capture race. fudaya: ya, dead meat to me takemeba [7d\]: w is cooll JosephGaz [?\]: A1 heegaard [6k\]: well with k15 very small reduction aussiemate [7k\]: m17 ? nimool: nah ennuistic [2k\]: maybe threatening the corner somehow? outstander [5k\]: ouuch Tarka [9k\]: too simple a mistake. can't possibly be, agt the this level. white has something planned Music86 [17k\]: If you have to ask which comments are inteligent.. well.. need i say more lol Swilice [1k\]: take, what do you think w is gonna do now ? rCr [4k\]: well, if this isn´t thaught thru... Zureiyaa [-\]: takemeba: what's the point here? demotu [13k\]: How is w cool? Battousai7 [17k?\]: should white have played at L15 LugPaj [2d\]: the question if this is tartrate will be answered soon BadPlay [8k\]: n16 ? topfar [1d\]: N15? ennuistic [2k\]: m17 is bad. Javaness [-\]: white is good at invasion and reduction topazg [3k?\]: M17 looks a bit risky after bM15 Hobbesian [1k\]: and L15 is forced follow up so white had to have anticipated it ] ;W[bj]WL[426.548]C[Bheeshma [7k\]: takemeba.. is this good? fudaya: who is w? a pro? JosephGaz [?\]: white should play A1 kaxtar1 [13k\]: b might loose from time velobici [?\]: if you have to ask which comments are intelligent you are not pro strenght topazg [3k?\]: Or tenuki :D Kirby [2k\]: i feel kind of disappointed outstander [5k\]: w getting desperate i think nimool: b8 svgo [4k\]: tenuki? GameFAQs [3d\]: Trust tartrate. Zureiyaa [-\]: what was j16.. Zureiyaa [-\]: i'm sad :( Javaness [-\]: interesting time to switch - does that indicate a mistake ] ;B[dj]BL[30]OB[3] ;W[hg]WL[424.651] ;B[ih]BL[30]OB[3]C[Zureiyaa [-\]: :O mooi [3d\]: ^^ Zureiyaa [-\]: here it comes ] ;W[gg]WL[419.84]C[ennuistic [2k\]: sick. Music86 [17k\]: i think black wins this with just solide play topazg [3k?\]: B10 is probe I guess celestia [12k\]: javaness? celestia [12k\]: is tartrate a professional? Kangur [3d\]: c13 in trouble? ciatsd [2d\]: oh snap ennuistic [2k\]: more than likely. LightFlush [1d\]: w is crazy Zureiyaa [-\]: tartrate is more :o heegaard [6k\]: did they say hi at the beginning? ] ;B[hi]BL[30]OB[3]C[Javaness [-\]: I have no way of knowing Zureiyaa [-\]: no one couldn't see taht :d Javaness [-\]: I don't spy on users identities Nightwind [4k\]: H16? InExtremis [-\]: b says "you have nothing here" ennuistic [2k\]: c13 should be fine. Xynosis [2k\]: wow ennuistic [2k\]: yeah. kaxtar1 [13k\]: g16 skamus [1k\]: at least w has some advantage with the time ArcLite [4k\]: seems to me like white dies big here ennuistic [2k\]: i say h16 canoman [11k\]: g15? Repos [4k\]: g15 celestia [12k\]: okay ^^ silver2k4 [5d?\]: there must be sth for w now Xynosis [2k\]: d12? BadPlay [8k\]: g15 ? johncena [16k\]: hi guys johncena [16k\]: gl ennuistic [2k\]: or something of that nature. liedzeit [1d?\]: finally it gets interesting kaxtar1 [13k\]: g16 ripero [5k?\]: true tartrate? Music86 [17k\]: y heegaard [6k\]: yep takemeba [7d\]: lib race soon.. Javaness [-\]: I was wondering about G16 LightFlush [1d\]: now i'm wondering Repos [4k\]: g15 for kill c13 ArcLite [4k\]: takemba who do you favor in this fight? topfar [1d\]: D12? fudaya: g16? Hobbesian [1k\]: g16 doesn't work yet Sponge7 [2d\]: who is winning??? vertigo [-\]: i wonder if it will make slashdot this time igosensei [4d\]: white get e15 connected with g16 kaxtar1 [13k\]: g16 canoman [11k\]: g15!!!!!!!!1 AllyEnd [5k\]: g15 ? Sponge7 [2d\]: for god´s sake lurrch1313 [2k\]: d12 Javaness [-\]: sentinel says g16 works ennuistic [2k\]: wow. Hobbesian [1k\]: but as setup for d12 Dojoo [10k\]: bwin PsychoCLS [5k\]: "make slashdot" ? ennuistic [2k\]: maybe. kaxtar1 [13k\]: oh 13k right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! gust [-\]: not as strong Hobbesian [1k\]: try to carve off the B14 group JosephGaz [?\]: L18 vertigo [-\]: last time tartrate returned there was a news post on /. fudaya: 13k = 31k ennuistic [2k\]: maybe thats the plan. Xynosis [2k\]: this is exciting CBlue [1d?\]: if w can pull this off it'll be epic ennuistic [2k\]: g16, connecting in sente? skamus [1k\]: g16 looks reaaly tasty Sponge7 [2d\]: tartrate = tartaric? ImMrFixit [?\]: w certanily behind i think ennuistic [2k\]: then d12? fudaya: as i told you guys: big fight wry [3d\]: g16 threatening both f17 and l17 Javaness [-\]: tartrate is not tartaric nimool: there is no epic. w will lose this game Kirby [2k\]: i agree kaxtar1 [13k\]: oh 13k right Zureiyaa [-\]: tartaric is liu yuanbo 2p JosephGaz [?\]: H18 kaxtar1 [13k\]: (for once) Midorya [2d\]: it'll be epic fail if w lose Sponge7 [2d\]: tartrate > tartaric ? highhand [5k\]: w e13? Zureiyaa [-\]: yes heegaard [6k\]: gentelrain pro? kcorsair [2k\]: tartrate always win DanEl [3k\]: sponge: yes outstander [5k\]: yes guestman: hi Bailiwick: How do gust [-\]: "nimool: there is no epic. w will lose this game" - agree ennuistic [2k\]: gentlerain is korean insei ji bang? KintaroOe [10k\]: no, tartrate has to win, I mean......he's tartrate so he has to win, right? Bailiwick: *How do I 'mute' the chat? Sponge7 [2d\]: tartrate >>>tartaric? MetallicaX [3d\]: i disagree CBlue [1d?\]: g16 mistake imho,b could f15 and keep w at 1 eye Koyoko [2k\]: i think b would just sacrifice if g16 ImMrFixit [?\]: seems very hard for white right now Koyoko [2k\]: and w won't have eye shape guestman: guys is it possabile if u dont type? Zureiyaa [-\]: kintaro: yes :) KintaroOe [10k\]: ^^ Avesarius [1k\]: Sponge, no Blake [3k\]: guestman Sponge7 [2d\]: T_T ennuistic [2k\]: fairly sure white will have eye shape. kaxtar1 [13k\]: j15 in troble Blake [3k\]: go to one of the clone games DanEl [3k\]: Bailliwick: not tough: You look at the board instead Koyoko [2k\]: guest clone the game if you don't want to hear us Bheeshma [7k\]: white attacking c13? ] ;W[eg]WL[182.012]C[Koyoko [2k\]: find another solution before you complain Xynosis [2k\]: !!! MetallicaX [3d\]: amazing Nyanjilla [-\]: keep the comments focused on this game please... if you must comment MetallicaX [3d\]: now g 16 works Repos [4k\]: ? kaxtar1 [13k\]: awesome ikami [1k\]: w so strong Hobbesian [1k\]: d12 works though, doesn't it? topazg [3k?\]: bD12 surely Bheeshma [7k\]: gentlerain pressed for time Nightwind [4k\]: d12? bsaltman [3k\]: d17 only? nimool: c12 ennuistic [2k\]: how so? takemeba [7d\]: b .. give w h15 stones and kill Sponge7 [2d\]: time troublezzzzzzzzzzzz YagamiKun [8k\]: d12 mortadelle [2d\]: d16 and d17 stones may die mooi [3d\]: j16 o.O :-) guestman: time kjbhjb: lol, w has only 0.5 komi in this game ] ;B[fe]BL[30]OB[2]C[nimool: C12 ImMrFixit [?\]: w might win on time The3d [3d\]: mayb Xynosis [2k\]: w will kill something MetallicaX [3d\]: yep ennuistic [2k\]: intermediate move. kaxtar1 [13k\]: d12 for b? bsaltman [3k\]: f11 MetallicaX [3d\]: white take c 14 Color [5k\]: too much weaknesses there not to kill anything ennuistic [2k\]: only d12 here. emacs [3k\]: D12 kills C14? ennuistic [2k\]: not sure if it works though. LightFlush [1d\]: i don't know what is w's plan, but i disagree this fight Javaness [-\]: D13 might be ok ennuistic [2k\]: probably not. wry [3d\]: b wants sente to get m15 ? Music86 [17k\]: F14 heegaard [6k\]: ok people: tartrate had his info to help us, the lower ranker with comments from high dans, but we just talk bull..t, let's shut up ennuistic [2k\]: if d12, black has d13 ] ;W[dh]WL[142.039]C[guestman: plz queit kaxtar1 [13k\]: white got it first kendo [3d\]: this seems like a disaster for b ImMrFixit [?\]: e14 ? MetallicaX [3d\]: nicely done fudaya: ya, you shut up, heegaard YagamiKun [8k\]: hmm Koyoko [2k\]: d13? CBlue [1d?\]: e14? InExtremis [-\]: e14 seems good Hobbesian [1k\]: cheese a361lbs [1k\]: why is the game listed above the open games in EGR? ennuistic [2k\]: e14 ] ;B[bi]BL[30]OB[2]C[ImMrFixit [?\]: i said it first DanEl [3k\]: anyone notice how black's center stones aren't settled yet? I don't particularly like his shape there tight now ennuistic [2k\]: this is fine too. Color [5k\]: what is blacks plan? GameFAQs [3d\]: Oof. MetallicaX [3d\]: ? ennuistic [2k\]: double atari, color. Altist [2k\]: ko? GameFAQs [3d\]: Black is out. DanEl [3k\]: *right now kob93675 [3k\]: e14 guestman: b12 kiRu29 [1d\]: to cut at e14 Music86 [17k\]: lol so gold comments like "i said it first" ImMrFixit [?\]: wow ImMrFixit [?\]: yes ImMrFixit [?\]: lol spirito [1k\]: B is very strong kitty4katt [7k\]: good kob93675 [3k\]: black is gonna try for ko? Adamantium [5d?\]: c7 stone working now ImMrFixit [?\]: b saw this out in 30secs? takemeba [7d\]: no ko.. ennuistic [2k\]: don't think its a ko. GrandYan [-\]: When in doubt... Pepin [4k?\]: fine tesuji :) celestia [12k\]: ummm... Koyoko [2k\]: i think f14 is useful MetallicaX [3d\]: black isnt out GrandYan [-\]: ...ko! Adamantium [5d?\]: like majic kitty4katt [7k\]: its still going on :) i made it back hmmmmmm this looks real tough GOfan [3d\]: w got something here? JosephGaz [?\]: D17 JosephGaz [?\]: E QuietP [9k\]: the question is, if w pulls this off, could he do it without the time element? wry [3d\]: definitely not a disaster for b :) Dratinice [3d\]: what does w plan to do? OrangeKyo [11k\]: who are these people that they draw an audience of >800 ? kaxtar1 [13k\]: w(b9) B(d11)white capturethenb(c12 ennuistic [2k\]: black winning big now. Javaness [-\]: well it is not a fast game guestman: B12 topfar [1d\]: B12! Tiesto [2d\]: what about b9? ] ;W[ff]WL[47.373]C[JosephGaz [?\]: E17 MetallicaX [3d\]: nice! GrandYan [-\]: Eh? JosephGaz [?\]: thx Music86 [17k\]: theres my F14 Music86 [17k\]: :P monboubou [2k?\]: w want kill all takemeba [7d\]: no.. MetallicaX [3d\]: no white proteccting d 13 KintaroOe [10k\]: !? Color [5k\]: ah i see it now black was planning on capturing e 15 to escape Battousai7 [17k?\]: Ithought he would play b12 demolisher [8d\]: white so strong.. kendo [3d\]: hehe lurrch1313 [2k\]: such a pretty shape ennuistic [2k\]: hmm. The3d [3d\]: ack, time Music86 [17k\]: i predicted this 1 move ago lol MetallicaX [3d\]: now b 12 kills Kirby [2k\]: if b12 first, b could have cut off e15 i think takemeba [7d\]: w wants a lib race kendo [3d\]: w + resign soon Swilice [1k\]: add time ! nimool: f12 Music86 [17k\]: add time please =( skamus [1k\]: its a funny thing people saying "nice!" 1sec after the move was played, without even read if it works ennuistic [2k\]: now h16 in sente, winning capture race? MetallicaX [3d\]: b coutime The3d [3d\]: =[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[ guestman: time kaxtar1 [13k\]: b will loose from time Koyoko [2k\]: come on add time ] ;B[bh]BL[30]OB[1]C[Color [5k\]: yiiiime topazg [3k?\]: Is black's top group in any risk? Nyanjilla [-\]: time management is part of the game The3d [3d\]: whew MetallicaX [3d\]: phew ponsjab [8k\]: is tartrate a 9d as well? aussiemate [7k\]: W g15 ? ] ;W[hd]WL[34.508]C[KintaroOe [10k\]: b9 Battousai7 [17k?\]: G15 kaxtar1 [13k\]: most likely guestman: no hes a 1p Kiniepe [1d\]: 9p sinsai [7k\]: :}:{ Bheeshma [7k\]: tartrate is 15 dan! Koyoko [2k\]: hmmm =/ MetallicaX [3d\]: white live or black dies there bucko [-\]: tartrate very very strong, or original was. GrandYan [-\]: ponsjab, http://senseis.xmp.net/?Tartrate takemeba [7d\]: w can probably connect.. topazg [3k?\]: Now there's a snapback or the group has one eye surely? takemeba [7d\]: then n 16 YagamiKun [8k\]: b might run out of time o.o ] ;B[ge]BL[30]OB[1]C[kendo [3d\]: time ] ;W[gb]WL[31.711]C[topazg [3k?\]: wG18 sinsai [7k\]: :) ] ;B[ef]BL[30]OB[1]C[The3d [3d\]: black dead Music86 [17k\]: add time =/ this is fun to watch skamus [1k\]: big semeai ikami [1k\]: pro cant add time this is impossible dude MetallicaX [3d\]: hes back ] ;W[df]WL[28.64]C[sinsai [7k\]: :::::::::::::) ] ;B[dg]BL[30]OB[1]C[Shenron [1d\]: OMG b dying? oOOo [4d\]: ok might be the real one :) Javaness [-\]: F18? Battousai7 [17k?\]: E12 Battousai7 [17k?\]: ? ArcLite [4k\]: looks like white dying to me? ennuistic [2k\]: dont think so. Adamantium [5d?\]: res Music86 [17k\]: E12 bucko [-\]: E12 seems free. kurikuri [11k\]: c12? takemeba [7d\]: e 19 sinsai [7k\]: super hero kendo [3d\]: hmm Kirby [2k\]: f18? Xynosis [2k\]: ouch I945 [3d\]: tartrate lost! guestman: E12 ennuistic [2k\]: lose. KintaroOe [10k\]: poor white TT_______TT MetallicaX [3d\]: e 12 kaxtar1 [13k\]: w dead CBlue [1d?\]: e19? takemeba [7d\]: if w connects... he is' fine Music86 [17k\]: E12 MetallicaX [3d\]: b 9 after yoyoas [2k\]: e17 ? ImMrFixit [?\]: w had hard fight to begin with takemeba [7d\]: e19 NickSib [2d\]: f18? sinsai [7k\]: tartrate is a SUPERHERO ] ;W[gi]WL[30]OW[3]C[sinsai [7k\]: !!!!!!!!!!! ennuistic [2k\]: white is done. Xynosis [2k\]: yes!! Xynosis [2k\]: no he isnt battousai1: it's not over quite yet LightFlush [1d\]: w tries to show the power of aji Color [5k\]: not yet Sponge7 [2d\]: we srsly need PRO COMMENTS DeepTuna [3k\]: blitz time guestman: TIME battousai1: there's still more game ennuistic [2k\]: black has to respond intelligently. guestman: OMG TIME ] ;B[gj]BL[30]OB[1]C[Color [5k\]: j 12 too weak walready: is Tartrate the same person as tweet? kendo [3d\]: w is tartrate he cant lose skamus [1k\]: w can win the semeai.. ikami [1k\]: time $_$ time Koyoko [2k\]: honestly i believe white has this Rhuhi [9k\]: very close takemeba [7d\]: e19 ~ ArcLite [4k\]: sponge7, demo room is open with higher dans commenting if you'd like InExtremis [-\]: so this is the capturing race you were talking about, takemeba? :) wry [3d\]: see clone game for comments... not pro but better than this aussiemate [7k\]: adding liberties? Color [5k\]: black has too much weakness too attack with j 12 topfar [1d\]: F18! takemeba [7d\]: heh Adamantium [5d?\]: e18? bucko [-\]: W has enough to just live? Sponge7 [2d\]: who cares about high dans opinions on a pro level games? MetallicaX [3d\]: me Swilice [1k\]: me Woodstock [-\]: better than low kyu trash kibitz KintaroOe [10k\]: me Music86 [17k\]: J12 looks nice ikami [1k\]: TIME $_$ TimE TiMe $_$ Koyoko [2k\]: *raises hand* kaxtar1 [13k\]: thanks' Zureiyaa [-\]: they should add time Zureiyaa [-\]: both YagamiKun [8k\]: nope nimool: m15 will finish w Music86 [17k\]: why do everything low Kyus say have to be trash? we all start somewhere guestman: d5 rofl kodomo [3d\]: they should lose on time, both kitty4katt [7k\]: wow FionaSidhe [1d\]: Stop the off-topic chatter DeepTuna [3k\]: It's over soon guestman: TIME nanaroz [9k\]: hurry Music86 [17k\]: add time please ] ;W[hj]WL[30]OW[1]C[Color [5k\]: omg the suspense Zureiyaa [-\]: huh.. gowhahat [10k\]: blitz time monkeygo: is gentlerain really 9dan? YagamiKun [8k\]: music part of Go is time Color [5k\]: see j 12 still tooweak Landstalkr [2k\]: good move nimool: f11 first ikami [1k\]: now it is a semi blitz ] ;B[gh]BL[30]OB[1]C[topazg [3k?\]: wH12 ennuistic [2k\]: hmm. ] ;W[hh]WL[30]OW[1]C[Music86 [17k\]: yeah i understand that but this game is to fun for it to end on time ] ;B[ii]BL[30]OB[1]C[Landstalkr [2k\]: ko Landstalkr [2k\]: or not : p takemeba [7d\]: arg. ikami [1k\]: lose 2 lib xD heronimus [5k\]: exchange Zureiyaa [-\]: white dead? CBlue [1d?\]: we12 also playable first? TwistedOne [3d\]: cool ennuistic [2k\]: capture? GOfan [3d\]: wow Shenron [1d\]: gonna be ko? Color [5k\]: its so hard to read this out walready: ko? maruseru [-\]: omg w lose ] ;W[fh]WL[30]OW[1] ;B[fi]BL[30]OB[1]C[ImMrFixit [?\]: f18 aussiemate [7k\]: Ko! DeepTuna [3k\]: oh my lord YagamiKun [8k\]: ko fight o.o GrandYan [-\]: omg indeed. guestman: EYE GOfan [3d\]: looking good ko for w Capsule [3d\]: looks like w die Blockdude [4k\]: i dont think its a ko The3d [3d\]: wow takemeba [7d\]: w many thhreats outstander [5k\]: b will just run out battousai1: white isn't dead yet guestman: eye ArcLite [4k\]: j10? ideahead [3d\]: wow kitty4katt [7k\]: game set match DeepTuna [3k\]: oh no ] ;W[gk]WL[30]OW[1]C[MetallicaX [3d\]: no DeepTuna [3k\]: phew ] ;B[gh]BL[30]OB[1]C[Music86 [17k\]: phew Zureiyaa [-\]: huh The3d [3d\]: woah outstander [5k\]: lots of local threats for both battousai1: there's still room for victory Zureiyaa [-\]: last second Zureiyaa [-\]: :D Yashitora [8k\]: >< GrandYan [-\]: Wow. 1 second left Capsule [3d\]: rofl, deja vu??? The3d [3d\]: whew odnihs [11k\]: lol ideahead [3d\]: gentlerain wins? ennuistic [2k\]: yeah. Music86 [17k\]: i was so sure he timed out LightFlush [1d\]: F18 Music86 [17k\]: :P lol ennuistic [2k\]: gentle wins. kendo [3d\]: many step ko Zureiyaa [-\]: i already thought it ended :( KintaroOe [10k\]: no tartrate TT_TT nimool: o9 GrandYan [-\]: Same here. ArcLite [4k\]: e19 threat here? Universe [1d\]: huge ko takemeba [7d\]: w is doing fine Nightwind [4k\]: o9 kcorsair [2k\]: F18 Fredda [-\]: B is fine ] ;W[lc]WL[30]OW[1]C[kendo [3d\]: time Zureiyaa [-\]: where's threat! Cliche [5k\]: wah...tartrate :) DeepTuna [3k\]: goodnight sweet prince Vasher [2d\]: this time issue is scaring me MetallicaX [3d\]: me too Koyoko [2k\]: come on add time guysss Music86 [17k\]: this game is so < 3 Sentinel [9d\]: b played a nice game, but it will end soon GrandYan [-\]: I need tranquilizers... Shana [1d\]: adds to the dramatic 9d match xD Paganini [-\]: wow ennuistic [2k\]: i don't think there is a comparison. Zureiyaa [-\]: is this a threat? Color [5k\]: gentlerain did a great job on this, with j 12 Paganini [-\]: ZERO SECONDS ennuistic [2k\]: fill. ] ;B[le]BL[30]OB[1] ;W[gi]WL[30]OW[1]C[The3d [3d\]: wow, this time thing is bad 4 the heart ] ;B[fj]BL[30]OB[1]C[Van06 [23k\]: lol ideahead [3d\]: connect Simple [5k\]: IGNORE YagamiKun [8k\]: and the fight continues o.o ennuistic [2k\]: wow. ] ;W[ij]WL[30]OW[1]C[NickSib [2d\]: j10 Simple [5k\]: wew Nyanjilla [-\]: if you have nothing to say, please don't say it The3d [3d\]: white has more threats right? ] ;B[gh]BL[30]OB[1]C[Color [5k\]: seriously the time is making me have heart attacks every turn ennuistic [2k\]: that bad of a ko? The3d [3d\]: a picnic ko ] ;W[me]WL[30]OW[1]C[Capsule [3d\]: not picnic ko ] ;B[md]BL[30]OB[1]C[ArcLite [4k\]: who does this ko favor? b it seems no? ] ;W[gi]WL[30]OW[1]C[bucko [-\]: All W really needs is to live somwhere. The3d [3d\]: no? guestman: e12 ] ;B[ji]BL[30]OB[1]C[ArcLite [4k\]: can just add threats by extending twillo [?\]: flower viewing bucko [-\]: Doesn't matter if G13 dies. ] ;W[mf]WL[30]OW[1]C[Xynosis [2k\]: ! fireman [15k\]: G14 The3d [3d\]: qwll white didnt lose much if he loses ko tho twillo [?\]: i like flowers Sponge7 [2d\]: wuhaaaaaah Zureiyaa [-\]: omh Capsule [3d\]: right, but picnic means almost nothing to lose for W takemeba [7d\]: w is strong. Zureiyaa [-\]: that's it Zureiyaa [-\]: wow Zureiyaa [-\]: i was lagging jenkinsear [1k\]: I didn't see n17 coming Zureiyaa [-\]: i saw white losing teralaser [4k\]: prepares for more ko threats ] ;B[lb]BL[30]OB[1]C[ImMrFixit [?\]: w aiming for n18 ? ImMrFixit [?\]: nvm jenkinsear [1k\]: it is a ko threat ] ;W[ki]WL[30]OW[1]C[jenkinsear [1k\]: er, was JoelRS: /? nimool: g14 ] ;B[gh]BL[30]OB[1]C[JosephGaz [?\]: Bharat Adamantium [5d?\]: w is tartrate Vasher [2d\]: n18 ? Bheeshma [7k\]: bharat? Tarka [9k\]: L14 is surely valid ] ;W[mc]WL[30]OW[1]C[DjRush [2d\]: b win takemeba [7d\]: humm ArcLite [4k\]: ignore here? highhand [5k\]: how do u know for sure? takemeba [7d\]: k10 .. LugPaj [2d\]: take! highhand [5k\]: due to skill? Kirby [2k\]: fill CBlue [1d?\]: hmm okashina [3k\]: are there really 800 people bucko [-\]: L18 cut is fun for W? bucko [-\]: (Later) ] ;B[gi]BL[30]OB[1]C[Plutarco [6k\]: why arent more higher dans commenting like tartrate likes Vasher [2d\]: n18 KintaroOe [10k\]: noooooo ennuistic [2k\]: yep. Xynosis [2k\]: awwwww Simple [5k\]: ouch maruseru [-\]: w resign ennuistic [2k\]: n18 ennuistic [2k\]: gote. The3d [3d\]: woah ImMrFixit [?\]: ? kendo [3d\]: ho ArcLite [4k\]: n18 j18? Zureiyaa [-\]: arr.. i'm scared ] ;W[nd]WL[30]OW[1]C[Spiriit [2d\]: j18 ] ;B[ib]BL[30]OB[1]C[Javaness [-\]: higher dans use the BigEvent clone mostly Blockdude [4k\]: both black groups can live MetallicaX [3d\]: whtie is fine yoyoas [2k\]: lost? ArcLite [4k\]: e19 coming ni handy soon? Battousai7 [17k?\]: k17? kendo [3d\]: tartrate doesnt lose Cowbell [1k\]: but the strongest ones are in the swedish room :\] MetallicaX [3d\]: he will kill corner johncena [16k\]: scary game ] ;W[mb]WL[30]OW[1]C[walready: w still gained a lot Blockdude [4k\]: b gained more takemeba [7d\]: around J2... Shenron [1d\]: w seems ok Sentinel [9d\]: i wonder if b ended the ko too early TwistedOne [3d\]: how will he kill the corner?.. kendo [3d\]: b needs r14 Zureiyaa [-\]: sentinel: how so? Capsule [3d\]: k18 DeepTuna [3k\]: R14... ] ;B[kb]BL[30]OB[1]C[Cliche [5k\]: corner can be killed?.. Spiriit [2d\]: b could hav fight ko longer LightFlush [1d\]: yes it can TwistedOne [3d\]: plenty of threats bucko [-\]: Is this a seki? ] ;W[re]WL[30]OW[1]C[ennuistic [2k\]: black is still better. Battousai7 [17k?\]: Q16? ennuistic [2k\]: no seki. Color [5k\]: i dont think b will let go of corner soeasily Music86 [17k\]: here we go Spiriit [2d\]: right here w is better ennuistic [2k\]: white just gets corner. ArcLite [4k\]: does building a base for w around s15 have any reprecussions on o8 group? Cliche [5k\]: looks fairly even to me... ennuistic [2k\]: i don't think so. GrandYan [-\]: Must....kill... Blockdude [4k\]: y would it be seki? Spiriit [2d\]: w get corner for sure Javaness [-\]: will that die? MetallicaX [3d\]: so exciting heegaard [6k\]: s18 JosephGaz [?\]: Bharat ] ;B[rd]BL[30]OB[1]C[takemeba [7d\]: gotta go.. damn Color [5k\]: thats a pretty big kill though battousai1: wow....what a match.... kendo [3d\]: not enough viewers takemeba [7d\]: i guess w moves around j2 aread soon skamus [1k\]: B didnt won anything no? f14 was B's territory since the beggining LightFlush [1d\]: P18? InExtremis [-\]: later, takemeba johncena [16k\]: i love go! Spiriit [2d\]: n6 1st? ] ;W[qe]WL[30]OW[1]C[Battousai7 [17k?\]: r14? ] ;B[pd]BL[30]OB[1]C[shinigami [1d\]: skamus - B won a wall facing center MetallicaX [3d\]: nice Bheeshma [7k\]: 851 obs is this a record? Kiniepe [1d\]: lol, ko Battousai7 [17k?\]: close GrandYan [-\]: JosephGaz, why are you mentioning random Indian names? ikami [1k\]: no ArcLite [4k\]: this sets up b gote life in corner for j2? Xynosis [2k\]: r18? Spiriit [2d\]: nah b liveed i think skamus [1k\]: and a dying group :) Spiriit [2d\]: eh Spiriit [2d\]: no sry ] ;W[qg]WL[30]OW[1]C[JosephGaz [?\]: it's you GY :) Spiriit [2d\]: dead Bheeshma [7k\]: actually bharat is an indian name for india :P MetallicaX [3d\]: alive ennuistic [2k\]: how dead? ] ;B[ob]BL[30]OB[1]C[Kangur [3d\]: time to kill o7 :) ennuistic [2k\]: its obviously alive. ArcLite [4k\]: s18 iis alive no? Spiriit [2d\]: but y r13? GrandYan [-\]: True, Bheeshma bladeforce [10k\]: tartrate legend is over guyz Kord [-\]: n6 now? Battousai7 [17k?\]: i knew it ArcLite [4k\]: white sets up attack on r11 perhaps? LoonGame [1k\]: N6N7 ? ] ;W[mk]WL[30]OW[1]C[The3d [3d\]: n6 ennuistic [2k\]: white desperate. ImMrFixit [?\]: yes Kirby [2k\]: tartrate will lose goalier [4d\]: J3 mexican5d [3d\]: tartrate+loe ennuistic [2k\]: its game over, as far as i'm concerned. Landstalkr [2k\]: b+res goalier [4d\]: last chance Spiriit [2d\]: n6 Zureiyaa [-\]: i'll cry if tartrate loses highhand [5k\]: what legend has tartrate got? ImMrFixit [?\]: must kill Baobei [-\]: is this the same tartrate? bucko [-\]: Definately no seki at top? ] ;B[nk]BL[30]OB[1]C[topfar [1d\]: O5? ennuistic [2k\]: dunno. Spiriit [2d\]: n6 kendo [3d\]: tartrate never loses Kirby [2k\]: i am disappointed, but w will still lose mexican5d [3d\]: yes same tartrate Vasher [2d\]: tartrate was undefeated for all of 2003 Javaness [-\]: why do you think tartrate is losing? you counted? mexican5d [3d\]: i nkow him personally DanEl [3k\]: yawn at the stupid comments ennuistic [2k\]: uh. cantwell [4k\]: watch him escape murai [1k\]: black will win ennuistic [2k\]: just look at the life death on board. ArcLite [4k\]: now j2? LightFlush [1d\]: n6? ripero [5k?\]: N6? ikami [1k\]: escape! this is the last solution ;) Bheeshma [7k\]: top right corner is trouble? Zureiyaa [-\]: time... Sponge7 [2d\]: WOW Spiriit [2d\]: aw GrandYan [-\]: ... nanaroz [9k\]: ouch kendo [3d\]: nooooo AWA [5k\]: aww BlackOmen1 [5d\]: mexican3d The3d [3d\]: agg ennuistic [2k\]: if white can't kill, its over. DeepTuna [3k\]: It's over Bheeshma [7k\]: damn! MetallicaX [3d\]: ahhhhhhhhhhh Capsule [3d\]: deja vu gentlerain [9d\]: thx kingme2 [4k\]: gasp AWA [5k\]: another one emacs [3k\]: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO kcorsair [2k\]: ohhh Xynosis [2k\]: ouch! nachodude [7k\]: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Koyoko [2k\]: man heegaard [6k\]: ooo Music86 [17k\]: nooooo notagain bucko [-\]: Well done gentlerain. comboy [?\]: kurwa MetallicaX [3d\]: omg BlackOmen1 [5d\]: u know tartrate!? kiRu29 [1d\]: k15 wouldn't have been enough, instead of j16 ? Bheeshma [7k\]: noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Magnusjen [13k\]: noooo Color [5k\]: FLOOOOD Cutz [2k\]: oh no Bheeshma [7k\]: :P dizzus [-\]: LOL The3d [3d\]: nooooo sakabato [11k\]: nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Kirby [2k\]: the end Sponge7 [2d\]: he FAILED BlackOmen1 [5d\]: !?!? Baobei [-\]: pffffff Lipdisk [?\]: omg lol plz Bisqwit [-\]: Thank you Tartrate silver2k4 [5d?\]: goodgame The3d [3d\]: ahhhhhhh Lipdisk [?\]: white did bad ikami [1k\]: aGaIn Midorya [2d\]: PWNED! ka1zer [?\]: nooo Krisps [6d?\]: pfff guestman: ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Capsule [3d\]: ride the kibitz wave guys MetallicaX [3d\]: 2nd time loss Rhuhi [9k\]: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAjesus crhiste kitty4katt [7k\]: O.O FionaSidhe [1d\]: STOP THE FLOOD ka1zer [?\]: ahhh Koyoko [2k\]: great game guys =\] sweety [-\]: stop flooding. Javaness [-\]: Quiet now please spazdor [10k?\]: scrooooooooooooolllllllllllll! mandam [1d\]: aaaaaaaaaaa guestman: spam kcorsair [2k\]: rematch! Hu [4k?\]: Thank you! maruseru [-\]: another legend has fallen iTengen [8k\]: ;_; ennuistic [2k\]: woohoo. sakabato [11k\]: great game ppl mexican5d [3d\]: what was taht?!? Fredda [-\]: Black has won guestman: flood a361lbs [1k\]: tartrate is a salt or ester of the organic compound tartaric acid, a dicarboxylic acid. VVeak [1d\]: ooooooooooo BlackOmen1 [5d\]: if it was Venu [5k?\]: thx gg Paganini [-\]: Yeah right guestman: omg Music86 [17k\]: not again Paganini [-\]: Stop the flood Sentinel [9d\]: worst ending ever kendo [3d\]: great game Paganini [-\]: pff Slartibart [2k\]: thanks to both, a ggreat game gentlerain [9d\]: thank you so much GameFAQs [3d\]: Sound victory. VVeak [1d\]: oooooooooo guestman: flooding AWA [5k\]: bah Nyanjilla [-\]: ENOUGH VVeak [1d\]: ooooooo lloyd [2d?\]: thanks for great play! BlackOmen1 [5d\]: lol battousai1: wow.... Yashitora [8k\]: ... Sentinel [9d\]: i want my money back Battousai7 [17k?\]: WOW tartrate [?\]: thx buzzsaw [8k?\]: thank you guestman: rofl Sponge7 [2d\]: gentlerain 4 prresient ennuistic [2k\]: pretty obvious that black is leading all over. mexican5d [3d\]: Sentinel: me too Iink [-\]: contratz to the players YamaB [4d\]: how can this game end like this... YagamiKun [8k\]: Thank you for that game ^_^ It was really something :) murai [1k\]: was N6 the solution ? Kazuma [-\]: gg tartrate you will do better next time guestman: flood stop ennuistic [2k\]: the fight went badly. royu [5d\]: Sentinel - we all know you don't have any money Sponge7 [2d\]: THIS MUST BE AFAKE Spiriit [2d\]: lol Zweig [1k\]: lol game still at the top ... Blockdude [4k\]: i dont see what ur so surprised about The3d [3d\]: =[ YagamiKun [8k\]: guys enough Justblack [3k\]: rematch Blockdude [4k\]: gentlerain is a very strong player, even for a 9dan Slug [3k\]: not the real tartrate :( Kscnoko123 [1k\]: the reign of tartrate overthrown?? ka1zer [?\]: rematch YagamiKun [8k\]: show them both respect Cliche [5k\]: again pls :( ennuistic [2k\]: that was pretty unsatisfying. IKnowNotGo [-\]: Thank you for the game. Zureiyaa [-\]: rematch won't be enough.. Midorya [2d\]: rematvh yes ])